Footballers Getting Bummed

[walshie 2,804]

Luckily nothing like that happened to me, so I can't imagine what they went through mentally. I'm not a hard-man, but I am vindictive and I'm pretty sure i would have been counting down the days to payback. One bad turn deserves another.

 

Having said that, that's from my perspective and not a victim's. The very fact that so many people don't do anything perhaps means it goes deeper than your natural instincts.

 

Take Brian Moore the ex-rugby player. It happened to him. Now he was a proper hard b*****d, but he did nothing either.

[Nik_B 3,791]

I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

I wonder how serious this actually was, I'm not saying he wasn't some wierdo but there's a bit of a difference to between rape and looks/touching

 

We had a right freak PE teacher at school, he would stand in the shower block watching everyone and put his arm across the exit so you had to duck under to get past. Everyone knew he was a paedo we would all run through as fast as possible. It wouldn't surprise at all me if he had messed with some of the other kids.

[gnasher16 31,506]

 

These weren't competitive men though, but young lads.....Tbh I find it hard to get my head round that in your teens you can let it happen, but it wasn't me. As has been said, it's rarely the brash confident lads that are singled out in these cases....

But I totally understand why victims bury it & how one person coming forward could give you the confidence you need to deal with it yourself.

The worrying thing is that these things seem to be more common than we think or would like to believe.....

 

Im not talking about the actual act of what took place obviously we cant imagine the horror of a young lad being physically overpowered im talking about later on in life as competitive athletes how they could have all those terrible memories and just shove them to the back of their mind with no thoughts of revenge ok i know not everyone is of that mindset but these were not timid weak little men they must of had enough about them to have the confidence to show their worth on a football pitch and be highly competitive in that way....i say again im not knocking them im just trying to understand it thats all.... ive spent a lot of years around sportsmen of all types at all levels and although its obviously not something you go bragging about ive honestly never heard any hint of anything like this until this all came out i cant work out if its based around one area,one sport or what.

Edited December 1, 2016 by gnasher16

[Accip74 7,112]

 

These weren't competitive men though, but young lads.....Tbh I find it hard to get my head round that in your teens you can let it happen, but it wasn't me. As has been said, it's rarely the brash confident lads that are singled out in these cases....

But I totally understand why victims bury it & how one person coming forward could give you the confidence you need to deal with it yourself.

The worrying thing is that these things seem to be more common than we think or would like to believe.....

 

Im not talking about the actual act of what took place obviously we cant imagine the horror of a young lad being physically overpowered im talking about later on in life as competitive athletes how they could have all those terrible memories and just shove them to the back of their mind with no thoughts of revenge ok i know not everyone is of that mindset but these were not timid weak little men they must of had enough about them to have the confidence to show their worth on a football pitch and be highly competitive in that way....i say again im not knocking them im just trying to understand it thats all.... ive spent a lot of years around sportsmen of all types at all levels and although its obviously not something you go bragging about ive honestly never heard any hint of anything like this until this all came out i cant work out if its based around one area,one sport or what.

It is hard to comprehend on this scale. I also think revenge is thought & spoken about more than actually executed. If you are enjoying a promising public career I would think it would be easier to refrain from an extreme act of revenge, due to the fall out afterwards......the law, exposing the truth for everyone to know etc etc....

I worked with a man who's son done just that. His son at the age of 18 killed an old boy who was a family friend, supposedly over abuse that had happened a few years before.......the lad done almost 10 years for it.

Edited December 1, 2016 by Accip74

[Silversnake 1,099]

 

 

These weren't competitive men though, but young lads.....Tbh I find it hard to get my head round that in your teens you can let it happen, but it wasn't me. As has been said, it's rarely the brash confident lads that are singled out in these cases....

But I totally understand why victims bury it & how one person coming forward could give you the confidence you need to deal with it yourself.

The worrying thing is that these things seem to be more common than we think or would like to believe.....

 

Im not talking about the actual act of what took place obviously we cant imagine the horror of a young lad being physically overpowered im talking about later on in life as competitive athletes how they could have all those terrible memories and just shove them to the back of their mind with no thoughts of revenge ok i know not everyone is of that mindset but these were not timid weak little men they must of had enough about them to have the confidence to show their worth on a football pitch and be highly competitive in that way....i say again im not knocking them im just trying to understand it thats all.... ive spent a lot of years around sportsmen of all types at all levels and although its obviously not something you go bragging about ive honestly never heard any hint of anything like this until this all came out i cant work out if its based around one area,one sport or what.

I am just guessing but I think they would not want to face the shame, embarrassment and sledging on the pitch if they spoke out. Can you imagine what Wayne Rooney would say to someone in this situation... They would probably top themselves.

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I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

 

Bennell was locked up for raping a boy in the 90s and some of the lads coming forward now are saying they were raped too so yes you're wrong about that.

[Nik_B 3,791]

 

I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

Bennell was locked up for raping a boy in the 90s and some of the lads coming forward now are saying they were raped too so yes you're wrong about that.

 

 

I stand corrected, I didn't follow it much (not really interested) but when I check the news it said the following, I'm not nit picking but there is no charge of rape. He should still be thrown out of a helicopter though

 

"The offences Bennell has been charged with include five counts of indecent assault on a boy under the age of 14, two counts of inciting a boy under 14 to commit an act of gross indecency, and assault with intent to commit buggery."

[Astanley 11,642]

Its a mental thing Gnash ,they might have gone on to be professionals ,with the strong mindset that being a professional requires ,but to get revenge would be to acknowledge that it happened ,the very thing they struggled all their lives to repress .

Complicated emotions like guilt for allowing it to happen ,the doubt in third own masculinity and the burden of carrying what they perceive to be their own seedy little secret eventually take their toll .

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I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

Bennell was locked up for raping a boy in the 90s and some of the lads coming forward now are saying they were raped too so yes you're wrong about that.

I stand corrected, I didn't follow it much (not really interested) but when I check the news it said the following, I'm not nit picking but there is no charge of rape. He should still be thrown out of a helicopter though

 

"The offences Bennell has been charged with include five counts of indecent assault on a boy under the age of 14, two counts of inciting a boy under 14 to commit an act of gross indecency, and assault with intent to commit buggery."

I'd imagine more charges will be coming as the investigation progresses and more lads come forward, there's definitely statements from victims claiming he raped them.

[Nik_B 3,791]

 

 

 

I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

Bennell was locked up for raping a boy in the 90s and some of the lads coming forward now are saying they were raped too so yes you're wrong about that.

I stand corrected, I didn't follow it much (not really interested) but when I check the news it said the following, I'm not nit picking but there is no charge of rape. He should still be thrown out of a helicopter though

 

"The offences Bennell has been charged with include five counts of indecent assault on a boy under the age of 14, two counts of inciting a boy under 14 to commit an act of gross indecency, and assault with intent to commit buggery."

I'd imagine more charges will be coming as the investigation progresses and more lads come forward, there's definitely statements from victims claiming he raped them.

 

 

When did all this happen? Was it all back in the 90s? Nowadays you have to have CRB checks to even work near a school!

 

There's no doubt that back then all kinds of institutions were infested with peados. Aside from that PE teacher we also had a music teacher who would try it on with boys in the brass band (there is a trumpet blowing joke to be had here)

 

I find it hard to get my head around how people can be attracted to kids...it knocks me sick

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I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

Bennell was locked up for raping a boy in the 90s and some of the lads coming forward now are saying they were raped too so yes you're wrong about that.

I stand corrected, I didn't follow it much (not really interested) but when I check the news it said the following, I'm not nit picking but there is no charge of rape. He should still be thrown out of a helicopter though

 

"The offences Bennell has been charged with include five counts of indecent assault on a boy under the age of 14, two counts of inciting a boy under 14 to commit an act of gross indecency, and assault with intent to commit buggery."

I'd imagine more charges will be coming as the investigation progresses and more lads come forward, there's definitely statements from victims claiming he raped them.

When did all this happen? Was it all back in the 90s? Nowadays you have to have CRB checks to even work near a school!

 

There's no doubt that back then all kinds of institutions were infested with peados. Aside from that PE teacher we also had a music teacher who would try it on with boys in the brass band (there is a trumpet blowing joke to be had here)

 

I find it hard to get my head around how people can be attracted to kids...it knocks me sick

80s-90s I think not sure whether there's been any more current allegations made, you're right though it seems it was a real epidemic back then with all sorts of institutions infested with pedos and covering it up whenever any of the victims were brave enough to speak up Sure we all had that one dodgy teacher who everyone knew was a nonce but nothing was ever done about it...

[Accip74 7,112]

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

Bennell was locked up for raping a boy in the 90s and some of the lads coming forward now are saying they were raped too so yes you're wrong about that.

I stand corrected, I didn't follow it much (not really interested) but when I check the news it said the following, I'm not nit picking but there is no charge of rape. He should still be thrown out of a helicopter though

 

"The offences Bennell has been charged with include five counts of indecent assault on a boy under the age of 14, two counts of inciting a boy under 14 to commit an act of gross indecency, and assault with intent to commit buggery."

I'd imagine more charges will be coming as the investigation progresses and more lads come forward, there's definitely statements from victims claiming he raped them.

When did all this happen? Was it all back in the 90s? Nowadays you have to have CRB checks to even work near a school!

 

There's no doubt that back then all kinds of institutions were infested with peados. Aside from that PE teacher we also had a music teacher who would try it on with boys in the brass band (there is a trumpet blowing joke to be had here)

 

I find it hard to get my head around how people can be attracted to kids...it knocks me sick

80s-90s I think not sure whether there's been any more current allegations made, you're right though it seems it was a real epidemic back then with all sorts of institutions infested with pedos and covering it up whenever any of the victims were brave enough to speak up Sure we all had that one dodgy teacher who everyone knew was a nonce but nothing was ever done about it...

Yeh we did......he was an ancient fcuker who actually taught my mum & was still teaching when I left school! A music/drama/pe teacher rolled into one & as far as I know he had that reputation through 50+ years of teaching :-(

[antg 1,816]

 

Some people on here are complete dicks, failing to understand just because their a tough guy nutcase who don't take shit from anyone and would kill anyone who touched them . That some people are different , some are quiet and easyily manipulated and kept quiet.

Most on here don't care about this happening and are more interested in making sure their point of being a tough nut even as a kid is put forward .

Plenty of these tough guy nut case types got raped in jail off a certain notorious ex boxer,and he was a prolific rapist. Paedophiles pick on the weakest in society this man was attacking young men.Knew a couple of lads who he had unfortunately had a hold of and there lives were ruined after it,and these were young men being raped not kids. Truth is you would like to think you could fight them off but the reality is your more than likely going to end up a victim also.

 

yes he was notorious for raping young fellas. ive being told on a couple of occasions by men that were in the big house at the same time,

fxcking dirty bxstard.

[jacknife 2,005]

I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

I wonder how serious this actually was, I'm not saying he wasn't some wierdo but there's a bit of a difference to between rape and looks/touching

 

We had a right freak PE teacher at school, he would stand in the shower block watching everyone and put his arm across the exit so you had to duck under to get past. Everyone knew he was a paedo we would all run through as fast as possible. It wouldn't surprise at all me if he had messed with some of the other kids.

 

We had a teacher like that.....there was a song in the school about it being 5min games and 45mins in the showers

[Nik_B 3,791]

 

I don't think any of them were raped though or am I wrong about this.

 

I wonder how serious this actually was, I'm not saying he wasn't some wierdo but there's a bit of a difference to between rape and looks/touching

 

We had a right freak PE teacher at school, he would stand in the shower block watching everyone and put his arm across the exit so you had to duck under to get past. Everyone knew he was a paedo we would all run through as fast as possible. It wouldn't surprise at all me if he had messed with some of the other kids.

 

We had a teacher like that.....there was a song in the school about it being 5min games and 45mins in the showers

 

 

and yet no one did anything about it....it's quite unreal when you think about it. The parents must have knows and definitely the teachers!