Evidence Of God???

[WILF 49,587]

Death is not a blessing, it's just not the end......there's a major difference.

[greg64 3,022]

 

The question is does anyone actually believe we will ever find the origins of the universe and life itself? I don't think we will ever discover the answer tbh....

Well find out when we die mate lol

 

you wont find out when you die because you will be dead

Edited November 18, 2016 by greg64

[stumfelter 3,034]

I'd be more inclined to believe in God if somebody could explain to me what he gets out of giving kids cancer.

[kanny 21,556]

I'd be more inclined to believe in God if somebody could explain to me what he gets out of giving kids cancer.

You assume a God cares for us and that the whole universe is for our benifit but that's not necessarily so ...if a God created the universe we might just be the fungi growing of it.

[gnasher16 31,227]

I have a fleeting interest in the whole creation/evo argument so often listen to debates of this nature and tend to lean one way then the other but having heard David Attenborough say that humans are as closely related to chimpanzees as lions are to tigers the other night im completely back to square one !......as for what happens after we die who knows and that's just how it should be,but people saying they dont fear death no i dont quite buy that i think we all have a fear of death and thats perfectly natural.

Edited November 18, 2016 by gnasher16

[DogFox123 1,379]

I have a fleeting interest in the whole creation/evo argument so often listen to debates of this nature and tend to lean one way then the other but having heard David Attenborough say that humans are as closely related to chimpanzees as lions are to tigers the other night im completely back to square one !......as for what happens after we die who knows and that's just how it should be,but people saying they dont fear death no i dont quite buy that i think we all have a fear of death and thats perfectly natural.

That's what I'm saying, death is a certainty we will all face yet most of us fear it. If it was in God's plan that we go to heaven after death then you'd think our instincts would embrace it.

[stumfelter 3,034]

 

I'd be more inclined to believe in God if somebody could explain to me what he gets out of giving kids cancer.

You assume a God cares for us and that the whole universe is for our benifit but that's not necessarily so ...if a God created the universe we might just be the fungi growing of it.

So why do the botherers claim that God made man in his own image?

[gnasher16 31,227]

I'd be more inclined to believe in God if somebody could explain to me what he gets out of giving kids cancer.

If you want the benefit of God me ol fruit you gotta put the leg work in yourself im afraid.... we all want answers but just standing demanding them aint gonna cut it is it.

[gnasher16 31,227]

 

I have a fleeting interest in the whole creation/evo argument so often listen to debates of this nature and tend to lean one way then the other but having heard David Attenborough say that humans are as closely related to chimpanzees as lions are to tigers the other night im completely back to square one !......as for what happens after we die who knows and that's just how it should be,but people saying they dont fear death no i dont quite buy that i think we all have a fear of death and thats perfectly natural.

That's what I'm saying, death is a certainty we will all face yet most of us fear it. If it was in God's plan that we go to heaven after death then you'd think our instincts would embrace it.

 

But we are dead......our instincts are done and dusted........... i presume.

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

I have a fleeting interest in the whole creation/evo argument so often listen to debates of this nature and tend to lean one way then the other but having heard David Attenborough say that humans are as closely related to chimpanzees as lions are to tigers the other night im completely back to square one !......as for what happens after we die who knows and that's just how it should be,but people saying they dont fear death no i dont quite buy that i think we all have a fear of death and thats perfectly natural.

That's what I'm saying, death is a certainty we will all face yet most of us fear it. If it was in God's plan that we go to heaven after death then you'd think our instincts would embrace it.

But we are dead......our instincts are done and dusted........... i presume.

I'm talking about when we live.

[gnasher16 31,227]

 

 

 

I have a fleeting interest in the whole creation/evo argument so often listen to debates of this nature and tend to lean one way then the other but having heard David Attenborough say that humans are as closely related to chimpanzees as lions are to tigers the other night im completely back to square one !......as for what happens after we die who knows and that's just how it should be,but people saying they dont fear death no i dont quite buy that i think we all have a fear of death and thats perfectly natural.

That's what I'm saying, death is a certainty we will all face yet most of us fear it. If it was in God's plan that we go to heaven after death then you'd think our instincts would embrace it.

But we are dead......our instincts are done and dusted........... i presume.

I'm talking about when we live.

 

But how can something become instinct when it hasnt happened yet.

[DogFox123 1,379]

I'm taking about our innate feelings, if there is life after death you would think deep down inside we would embrace it.

[Tiercel 6,986]

I have a fleeting interest in the whole creation/evo argument so often listen to debates of this nature and tend to lean one way then the other but having heard David Attenborough say that humans are as closely related to chimpanzees as lions are to tigers the other night im completely back to square one !......as for what happens after we die who knows and that's just how it should be,but people saying they dont fear death no i dont quite buy that i think we all have a fear of death and thats perfectly natural.

We have had this conversation before, I honestly do not fear death, I do not embrace it or chase it but when my time comes I will "go quietly in to that deep dark night". I will go knowing I have done my job in propagating the species, which if truth be told is all we are here for. I will go knowing that a part of me will live on in perpetuity the same as my forefathers before me.

 

TC

[mushroom 13,964]

 

 

 

 

Stephen Hawking Admits Intelligent Design Is Highly Probable World News Daily Report

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/stephen-hawkins-admits-intelligent-design-is-highly-probable/

Intelligent design doesn't mean God. And the anthropic principle doesn't only have the conclusions of divine creation or single random act of nature.

God is just a term for the creator is it not?

Depends who you talk to but that's not really what I was getting at. I'll cut to the chase... Hawking's answer to the improbability of a universe forming life (the anthropic principle) is that the universe was created intelligently, not through the random process originally assumed. That doesn't mean God, as in a sentient intelligent being, simply an intelligent mechanism/process. One that can discriminate between life producing universe designs and non-life producing ones during the process of creation. A computer program would be an example, it's intelligent, not random but still not sentient as we would generally define a God to be. The concept is totally speculative and of courses raises plenty more questions!

 

It also doesn't even mean that there's no other natural options, or should that be non-divine options. For instance a very common theory is the concept of many worlds, multiverse type stuff. Assuming the process behind creation is not divine but natural and also random not intelligent then it's possible that through some mechanism there are many many acts of universe creation and that statistically the vast majority of them are lifeless or fail with only the ones that are just right (like ours) that produce life. To the self aware lifeforms of those few it would appear like winning the lottery and totally improbable. But then they have no knowledge of the countless others than are essentially dead.

I applaud your way of explaining mate I couldnt do it, although I know exactly what Hawkins and the rest are getting at. infinite possibilities

[DogFox123 1,379]

Those theories are just wild guesses are they not, with no scientific evidence whatsoever?