Francie 6,368 Posted November 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2016 The bible also tells us that the earth hangs on nothing, that it is a circle, it also tells us about the earth revolving, also tells us about the currents that circle the earth. Its tells us to wash your hands after encountering the dead or diceased. It tells us that everything is made of invisible things, things thatcant be seen It tells us that stars emit noise, an that light travels. Tells us of the hydrologic cycle, an that clouds holds water. Tells us of the hydro thermal springs in the sea. Tells us of the nuclear elements. Just a few maten howd could they have known this thousands of years ago unless divine intervention? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I find it mildly amusing when people slag people with a faith and trot out the old "no proof" chestnut........you want some proof?.......look out the f***ing window you stupid b*****ds. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Religion and people believing in it doesn't bother me one way or the other,at the end of the day were brain washed with religion from birth so people will accept it. For me religion is just the most popular accepted cults and an aethiest like me is just a person with no invisible means of support. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,371 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 I'm not religious, never been to church never read the bible dont believe we goto heaven and walk around like we are now expect with angel wings. But I do believe there is a God or somebody watching over us. I've been in plenty shitty situations and made it out the other end and have been given plenty great opportunities in life that I don't feel I deserve. So I'm not quite sure what I am religious an atheist or maybe just an idiot. Similar to me mate,though i do also put a lot in what Wilf just said about " look around you ".......but likewise im not really a church goer and cant get into the bible but i cant go against my own gut......religious/believer call it what you will i just keep it simple and call it a faith in God. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 So the likes of Jimmy Tibbs are deluded, brainwashed, weak minded idiots who don't really know what's going on ?...........honestly, you couldn't make some of these replies up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MickC 1,825 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 There are believers and non believers it's each and everybody's choice to make. But we are all born into a society were religion is drummed into us from birth until death,get christened at church,die go to church and all the church visits/things in between. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 There are believers and non believers it's each and everybody's choice to make. But we are all born into a society were religion is drummed into us from birth until death,get christened at church,die go to church and all the church visits/things in between. Mick you could also say secularism is taught to the children from a young age, it just depends who the childrens parents are does it not, i mean your obviously going to teach your children the way you were brought up, it our children an whatever your beleif thats what your gona teach them, soits up to parents what to teach there children, an its no one elses decision mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Its the parents decision not soceity, or teachers or scummy politicians, so i think your point is not applicable mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) There are believers and non believers it's each and everybody's choice to make. But we are all born into a society were religion is drummed into us from birth until death,get christened at church,die go to church and all the church visits/things in between.Completely true mate, it is everyone choice based on their own way of seeing the world. As I have said a million times before on these threads, I don't give a toss if folk don't have a faith what I despise is people cracking on and calling people like me weak minded, simple, deluded, needing a crutch for my life.......I'm none of those things and anyone saying such can all f**k off. I don't want to be mocked by some simple c**t who probably ain't seen half of what me and others like me have in life. People should put their brain into gear and be polite about it. Edited November 5, 2016 by WILF 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j1985 1,984 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 There are believers and non believers it's each and everybody's choice to make. But we are all born into a society were religion is drummed into us from birth until death,get christened at church,die go to church and all the church visits/things in between.Completely true mate, it is everyone choice based on their own way of seeing the world. As I have said a million times before on these threads, I don't give a toss if folk don't have a faith what I despise is people cracking on and calling people like me weak minded, simple, deluded, needing a crutch for my life.......I'm none of those things and anyone saying such can all f**k off. I don't want to be mocked by some simple c**t who probably ain't seen half of what me and there's like me have in life. People should put their brain into gear and be polite about it. I just can't get my head around someone who has travelled the world, been educated in more ways than one but still believes in a god. Not trying to be a dick it just blows my mind a bit that in this day an age people still believe the what can only be described as madness that is in the bible. If you're parents were Muslim would you be a Christian/Catholic etc....??? Food for thought 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 49,762 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 That's fine mate, you are perfectly entitled to think that way.......what you are not doing is calling people names and that's the difference mate. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 To my mind if they exists gods must be pretty incompetent "Some god or other is always fixing and poking, messing around with tradesmen's wives, giving tablets on mountains, commanding you to mutilate your children, telling people what words they can say and what words they can't say, making people feel guilty about enjoying themselves, and like that. Why can't the gods leave well enough alone? All this intervention speaks of incompetence. If God didn't want Lot's wife to look back, why didn't he make her obedient, so she'd do what her husband told her? Or if he hadn't made Lot such a s--thead, maybe she would've listened to him more. If God is omnipotent and omniscient, why didn't he start the universe out in the first place so it would come out the way he wants? Why's he constantly repairing and complaining? No, there's one thing the Bible makes clear: The biblical God is a sloppy manufacturer. He's not good at design; he's not good at execution. He'd be out of business if there was any competition". [sol Hadden in Carl Sagan's Contact (New York: Pocket Books, 1985), p. 285.] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 The universe is perfectley fine is it not, perfect conditions for life on earth. What problems can you see in the universe that is not fine? I dont know what bible youve been reading mate, because all you have to do is beleive an God will do the rest. Bad design, come on man, ffs lol your trying to tell me your body is bad design, thats really funny. Theres million other things but , Could you expand on the bad design mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Squirrel_Basher 17,102 Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Right then believers ,how the f**k do you justify the disease that is cancer ,did your god think it was funny ,just or maybe a way of making some pray because i sure as hell hate any c**t that devised the hell ive witnessed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 My mum had cancer mate an she beat it, she had to get an op on her face, her face was a mess, took few months to heal up. Cancer is a by product of or envoirment, its full of pollution, air water food etc drugs drink an so forth, but on the other handd theres known cures out there but there surpressed. All the medicine we need is in the wild, provided for us. Everything was provided for us until man got greedy an selfish, an slowly but surely poisoning ourselves to death, jmo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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