POACHING WAYS/AND GYPSY DOGS

[CAcountry_boy 0]

FISH HOOKS BAITED WITH RAISENS AND TIED TO SPRINGY BRANCHES WOULD WORK BETTER AND YOU WOULDNT HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE BIRDS

 

Wow, I once read about baiting fish hooks to catch chickens or other fowl, and i have successfully used it myself on several occasions. But all I did was throw the baited hook in front of the chicken or turkey and wait a second for the thing to gobble it up, then reel it in to me. Beats chasing the damn things around. But this deal here that nrat is on about, tying multiple baited hooks to tree branches is just brilliant. I bet it would work on wild quail too I just might have to try it out....

[Rolfe 2]

Yeppers, both Ian Nialls books are f*cking classics of the genre. (George Henry Watkin, the 'Keeper, eh? F*ckin brilliant! )

 

Another poaching book I worshipped and yet never now hear of though is " While Others Sleep " by, I believe Cyril Herber - Percy. Story of Bill and his lurker. Illustrated by that marvellous Field Sports artist, Michael Lynne.

 

The hard back copy I had came with a dust jacket illustration of a painted scene; A barn owl in flight above a woodland path leading down to a moon lit field. Absolutely f*cking wanking material!

 

Oh and, interestingly; As far as I remember, the methods employed by 'Bill' were pretty much correct. I don't seem to remember anything too far fetched sounding in that book. Just nets, Gin traps and snares sort of thing.

 

Very Highly reccomended

 

 

The absolute classic book is the wonderful "I Walked by Night" by Lilias Ryder Haggard.

the story of the king of the Norfolk Poachers......a must.. for true poaching book lovers.

 

i have done some research into the story..........not is all as it seems?

[nrat 8]

FISH HOOKS BAITED WITH RAISENS AND TIED TO SPRINGY BRANCHES WOULD WORK BETTER AND YOU WOULDNT HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE BIRDS

 

Wow, I once read about baiting fish hooks to catch chickens or other fowl, and i have successfully used it myself on several occasions. But all I did was throw the baited hook in front of the chicken or turkey and wait a second for the thing to gobble it up, then reel it in to me. Beats chasing the damn things around. But this deal here that nrat is on about, tying multiple baited hooks to tree branches is just brilliant. I bet it would work on wild quail too I just might have to try it out....

DONT GET CAUGHT THEY WILL PUT A POSSE ON YA YE-HA

[fishfish 17]

well theres a list of books to get,ive got a couple ive got ian nialls ones and tales of the old poachers by humphreys.another book worthy of note is an old one from the early 20th centuary its called 'the amateur poacher by richard jefferies,a good read ,i picked this beuty up at the recycling center,amazing what folk throw out!

I may get some flack for this from the mods but if your intrested in traditional country hunting(aka poaching) check out the link on my signiature.

[Tyla 3,179]

POACHING WAYS AND GYPSY DOGS, IN ALL MY OLD YEARS I MUST HAVE READ MOST OLD POACHING BOOKS,AND TRIED SEVERAL OF THE OLD POACHERS WAYS AND MEANS OF CATCHING A DINNER,NOT COZ I WAS HUNGARY BUT JUST TO TRY,NOW SOME OF THESE OLD TALES WANT SOME BELIEVING,LITTLE LYOYD MENTIONED USING A CONE SUNK IN THE GROUND WITH SOME CORN IN IT,PHEASANT EATS CORN AND GETS HEAD STUCK IN CONE YOU THEN JUST COME ALONG AND PICK UP THE PHEASANTS ANOTHER ONE,YOU BURN FLOWERS OF SULFER UNDER ROOSTING PHEASANTS STUPPIFING THEM TILL THEY FALL OUT THE TREE EVEN ON A STILL NIGHT I DOUGHT THE FUMES WOULD GO STRAIGHT UP.FISHING FOR RABBITS WITH A FERRET A LINE ATTACHED TO THE FERRET AS IN A LINER LET IT WANDER IN THEN JUST PULL OUT THE RABBITS WOULD WORK IN A SHORT STOP END, BUT NOT IN A EVEN A SMALL EARTH WOULD IT WORK BY THE TIME THE FERRETS GONE ROUND A FEW BENDS YOU WOULD BE STUCK :thumbdown:HOW ABOUT SNARING A PHEASANT OUT THE ROOST HAVE YOU EVER TRIED PUSHING A SNARE UP THROUGH A BLACKTHORN BUSH THERS LOADS OF OLD WAYS SOME WORK SOME DONT SOME SEEM A BIT FAR FETCHED, AND WHAT ABOUT GYPSEY DOGS ALL THE OLD TALES TELL OF THE PROWESS THEY POSESED,WHEN APPROACHED BY A KEEPER THE DOG WOULD MAKE ITS WAY HOME VIA A DIFFERENT ROUTE,AND GATE NETTING DOGS DO THEY REALLY EXIST,A DOG LIKE THAT WOULD BE PRICELESS IF THE THE GYPSY DOGS WERE THAT GOOD AT COURSING AND HUNTING,WHY DO THEY ALWAYS KEEP CHANGING THEM,I THINK MOST POACHING HAS ALWAYS BEEN NETS SNARES DOGS AND GUNS,PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS TODAY,THE MAIN DIFFERANCE BETWEEN OLD POACHERS AND NOW,WAS THAT THE BOYS,TENDED TO BE COUNTRY WISE,

 

A few years back my mate had two dogs he bought off a traveller, they would disappear into the dark on command and only come back when called. it was very useful several times

 

Annoyingly, one of the dogs was stolen off him a year later, we always suspected the guy he got them off but no way of proving it. They jumped out of a transit as he was walking down a lane early one morning and would have had both but my mate was a bit handy if you know what i mean and i think they were more than happy to get the one. Not many people knew where he was going hence our suspicions.

 

i also tried the cone trick as a kid, never on pheasants but worked a treat on mums chickens Got the hiding of my life for it though!

[steve66 3,745]

The great game by harold wyman (sp) a cracking read and well worth the money

Also poaching a keepers nightmare by n bird is worth alook

[shaaark 11,367]

Anyone else got any good book recommendations.

Starting to get a few fieldsports etc books together.

Anyway, 17 1/2 years ain't too bad to resurrect a thread!

[jukel123 9,348]

Poaching stories should be taken for what they are.. romantic stories. Plummer and the rest  made stuff up. It's what writers do. It's good entertainment.

I've never seen a dog trained to push game into a long net and then leave them to be dispatched by the netter.

Never seen a dog trained to feck off home. Although I guess that could be taught.

Never seen a dog that can walk at heel through a farmyard and then be sent back to noiselessly retrieve a hen. Does the handler specify a good layer, a brown one please? I guess that could be taught. I've had lurchers which will let pet rabbits lie with them but then kill wild rabbits.

Its much easier to nick a ready plucked hen at Tesco.Lol

Of course I'm no authority, and just because I haven't seen these wonderdogs doesn't mean they don't exist. But  I've been around a lot of dogs and have a good idea how they tick.

I've not even  seen many lurchers which will jump a hedge as opposed to a fence or a gate.

So put me down as a sceptic. Anybody want to supply video evidence of these tricks?  If you can I'll be first to applaud and  retract what I've written.

Edited 23 hours ago by jukel123

[shaaark 11,367]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

Poaching stories should be taken for what they are.. romantic stories. Plummer and the rest  made stuff up. It's what writers do. It's good entertainment.

I've never seen a dog trained to push game into a long net and then leave them to be dispatched by the netter.

Never seen a dog trained to feck off home. Although I guess that could be taught.

Never seen a dog that can walk at heel through a farmyard and then be sent back to noiselessly retrieve a hen. Does the handler specify a good layer, a brown one please? I guess that could be taught. I've had lurchers which will let pet rabbits lie with them but then kill wild rabbits.

Its much easier to nick a ready plucked hen at Tesco.Lol

Of course I'm no authority, and just because I haven't seen these wonderdogs doesn't mean they don't exist. But  I've been around a lot of dogs and have a good idea how they tick.

I've not even  seen many lurchers which will jump a hedge as opposed to a fence or a gate.

So put me down as a sceptic. Anybody want to supply video evidence of these tricks?  If you can I'll be first to applaud and  retract what I've written.

You think I don't know book writer's 'exaggerations' lol?!

Just asking for some good book recommendations, simple.

I've never been to a rat killing pit/contest, or the old dog fighting contests, but I like reading about it.

Just fancy reading some books about the countryside and poaching etc, that I've not read before.

BTW, juke, I'm not having a dig at you, and understand what you're saying.

Just fancy reading some good countryside/poaching books that have good/very good reviews.

Edited 22 hours ago by shaaark

[jukel123 9,348]

38 minutes ago, shaaark said:

You think I don't know book writer's 'exaggerations' lol?!

Just asking for some good book recommendations, simple.

I've never been to a rat killing pit/contest, or the old dog fighting contests, but I like reading about it.

Just fancy reading some books about the countryside and poaching etc, that I've not read before.

BTW, juke, I'm not having a dig at you, and understand what you're saying.

Just fancy reading some good countryside/poaching books that have good/very good reviews.

I wasn't responding to your post shark, just braying my opinion as usual. So we are friends again.

[shaaark 11,367]

4 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I wasn't responding to your post shark, just braying my opinion as usual. So we are friends again.

No probs, mucker lol

[brambles 3,382]

2 hours ago, jukel123 said:

Poaching stories should be taken for what they are.. romantic stories. Plummer and the rest  made stuff up. It's what writers do. It's good entertainment.

I've never seen a dog trained to push game into a long net and then leave them to be dispatched by the netter.

Never seen a dog trained to feck off home. Although I guess that could be taught.

Never seen a dog that can walk at heel through a farmyard and then be sent back to noiselessly retrieve a hen. Does the handler specify a good layer, a brown one please? I guess that could be taught. I've had lurchers which will let pet rabbits lie with them but then kill wild rabbits.

Its much easier to nick a ready plucked hen at Tesco.Lol

Of course I'm no authority, and just because I haven't seen these wonderdogs doesn't mean they don't exist. But  I've been around a lot of dogs and have a good idea how they tick.

I've not even  seen many lurchers which will jump a hedge as opposed to a fence or a gate.

So put me down as a sceptic. Anybody want to supply video evidence of these tricks?  If you can I'll be first to applaud and  retract what I've written.

So what you don't believe in "Ghosts" either then ???

[jukel123 9,348]

13 minutes ago, brambles said:

So what you don't believe in "Ghosts" either then ???

Only when I was out lamping after watching a horror film. That could be squeaky bum occasionally.

[low plains drifter 11,164]

5 hours ago, shaaark said:

Anyone else got any good book recommendations.

Starting to get a few fieldsports etc books together.

Anyway, 17 1/2 years ain't too bad to resurrect a thread!

Both sides of the fence by Frank Cullum

 

[Qbgrey 4,261]

Not sure about gypsy dogs , most I’ve seen are underfed, not good at lamping, and when it gets a bits hairy they will drive off and leave em. Always want to buy your dog and all go poaching 4 up,4 lamps,4dogs, if you don’t hear them coming a mile away shouting, slamming gates etc you certainly will see them all 4 of them blasting lamps everywhere.you will know if they been in your ground as most snip the fences with cutters cause the dogs can’t jump .