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personally I think the west is arming every raving looney in the desert to overthrow Assad without getting there hands dirty, and Russia are helping an elected leader as written in most of the war law

The Middle East has thousands of years of tribal and family allegiances. Through marriage , political or military superiority. it is the way of the Society. The low levels of Education in Saudia one

The middle east is a bloody complicated place. Yes, to the outsider, the people are basic and simple but, they operate on a system of morals and honour that has become alien to us now.   Of course

Read on another site 500 terrorists surrendered and 450 have been given an amnesty and sent on their way, I wonder what part of europe they'll be heading

 

Aye the pockets is going to collapse very soon. I am looking forward to see if my prediction comes true, I always said when there is a dedal on Syria i.e. Saudi and Co give up then only then will an OPEC deal come. Today that deal has happened so lets see what happens :D

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Supposedly all references and pictures of the clown only surfaced a few days before his 'death'.

 

Why Assad is winning: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/aleppo-syria-assad-214494

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I read through this post kinda of fast... skimming as I read but, what stuck out to me was the mention of Oil,West,Russia. We made a hugh mistake leaving Iraq the way we did. The other is the dependency of oil. These are puppet strings to those countries that can't produce or have limited supplys of oil/gas. The West and UK need to be self sufficient by working together on meeting those demands. Other countries who use there resources oil/gas can't afford to dictate to the world there policies if nobody's buying there products. One more thing a week leader who doesn't stand up to the red line..... just has no bowhonas....

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I read through this post kinda of fast... skimming as I read but, what stuck out to me was the mention of Oil,West,Russia. We made a hugh mistake leaving Iraq the way we did. The other is the dependency of oil. These are puppet strings to those countries that can't produce or have limited supplys of oil/gas. The West and UK need to be self sufficient by working together on meeting those demands. Other countries who use there resources oil/gas can't afford to dictate to the world there policies if nobody's buying there products. One more thing a week leader who doesn't stand up to the red line..... just has no bowhonas....

 

One of the unintended consequences of the Iraq invasion was that the Shia (pro Iranians) used the democratic elections and won most of the power. The Saudi's (who pushed for the invasion) were horrified as this led to a re-balancing of power in the ME with the Iranians + Iraq and Syria becoming at least as powerful if not more powerful that the Arab States.

 

The Saudis have had the West by the balls for decades because of our dependence on oil, think about it why does our media always talk of threats to the US when talking about Libya, or Syria or Iran? They can't invade us, they have no nukes and we could turn them in to glass in under 10 minutes flat. But if people realised that it is actually Saudi and their oil trade that is being threatened they won't get behind anymore wars....and that is already happening.

 

The USA is in a very powerful situation right now, their shale oil/gas technology reduces the Saudi influence on US, the Saudi's know it as well which is partly why they increased production by 1.5 million barrels per day...to damage the shale companies and also to pressurise Russia in to giving up on Assad. They also bought officials including the Clintons and probably a lot in the UK like Hammond. If Europe could embrace fracking and work with the US we would not need Saudi oil ever again, it's not even a good quality oil, it's high sulphur and nasty heavy stuff unlike the sweet US blends.

 

The problem for the US is that it actually became an empire of sorts, after the Soviet Union collapsed it had free reign to gobble up countries and put them in to it's sphere of influence...Now the empire has reaching it's peak and because of the huge US debt it is receding and leaving a vacuum which is being exploited by other countries. One of the things this empire did was to use Saudi funded terror groups to overthrow countries, it started with Afghanistan but they were used in Kosovo/Bosnia as well, the CIA air dropped weapons for Al Qaeda there. Libya and Syria are two more examples, it cannot be disputed.

 

One thing is for sure though....we're in for some interesting times ahead as the geopolitical landscape changes

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I read through this post kinda of fast... skimming as I read but, what stuck out to me was the mention of Oil,West,Russia. We made a hugh mistake leaving Iraq the way we did. The other is the dependency of oil. These are puppet strings to those countries that can't produce or have limited supplys of oil/gas. The West and UK need to be self sufficient by working together on meeting those demands. Other countries who use there resources oil/gas can't afford to dictate to the world there policies if nobody's buying there products. One more thing a week leader who doesn't stand up to the red line..... just has no bowhonas....

 

One of the unintended consequences of the Iraq invasion was that the Shia (pro Iranians) used the democratic elections and won most of the power. The Saudi's (who pushed for the invasion) were horrified as this led to a re-balancing of power in the ME with the Iranians + Iraq and Syria becoming at least as powerful if not more powerful that the Arab States.

 

The Saudis have had the West by the balls for decades because of our dependence on oil, think about it why does our media always talk of threats to the US when talking about Libya, or Syria or Iran? They can't invade us, they have no nukes and we could turn them in to glass in under 10 minutes flat. But if people realised that it is actually Saudi and their oil trade that is being threatened they won't get behind anymore wars....and that is already happening.

 

The USA is in a very powerful situation right now, their shale oil/gas technology reduces the Saudi influence on US, the Saudi's know it as well which is partly why they increased production by 1.5 million barrels per day...to damage the shale companies and also to pressurise Russia in to giving up on Assad. They also bought officials including the Clintons and probably a lot in the UK like Hammond. If Europe could embrace fracking and work with the US we would not need Saudi oil ever again, it's not even a good quality oil, it's high sulphur and nasty heavy stuff unlike the sweet US blends.

 

The problem for the US is that it actually became an empire of sorts, after the Soviet Union collapsed it had free reign to gobble up countries and put them in to it's sphere of influence...Now the empire has reaching it's peak and because of the huge US debt it is receding and leaving a vacuum which is being exploited by other countries. One of the things this empire did was to use Saudi funded terror groups to overthrow countries, it started with Afghanistan but they were used in Kosovo/Bosnia as well, the CIA air dropped weapons for Al Qaeda there. Libya and Syria are two more examples, it cannot be disputed.

 

One thing is for sure though....we're in for some interesting times ahead as the geopolitical landscape changes

 

 

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I read through this post kinda of fast... skimming as I read but, what stuck out to me was the mention of Oil,West,Russia. We made a hugh mistake leaving Iraq the way we did. The other is the dependency of oil. These are puppet strings to those countries that can't produce or have limited supplys of oil/gas. The West and UK need to be self sufficient by working together on meeting those demands. Other countries who use there resources oil/gas can't afford to dictate to the world there policies if nobody's buying there products. One more thing a week leader who doesn't stand up to the red line..... just has no bowhonas....

One of the unintended consequences of the Iraq invasion was that the Shia (pro Iranians) used the democratic elections and won most of the power. The Saudi's (who pushed for the invasion) were horrified as this led to a re-balancing of power in the ME with the Iranians + Iraq and Syria becoming at least as powerful if not more powerful that the Arab States.

 

The Saudis have had the West by the balls for decades because of our dependence on oil, think about it why does our media always talk of threats to the US when talking about Libya, or Syria or Iran? They can't invade us, they have no nukes and we could turn them in to glass in under 10 minutes flat. But if people realised that it is actually Saudi and their oil trade that is being threatened they won't get behind anymore wars....and that is already happening.

 

The USA is in a very powerful situation right now, their shale oil/gas technology reduces the Saudi influence on US, the Saudi's know it as well which is partly why they increased production by 1.5 million barrels per day...to damage the shale companies and also to pressurise Russia in to giving up on Assad. They also bought officials including the Clintons and probably a lot in the UK like Hammond. If Europe could embrace fracking and work with the US we would not need Saudi oil ever again, it's not even a good quality oil, it's high sulphur and nasty heavy stuff unlike the sweet US blends.

 

The problem for the US is that it actually became an empire of sorts, after the Soviet Union collapsed it had free reign to gobble up countries and put them in to it's sphere of influence...Now the empire has reaching it's peak and because of the huge US debt it is receding and leaving a vacuum which is being exploited by other countries. One of the things this empire did was to use Saudi funded terror groups to overthrow countries, it started with Afghanistan but they were used in Kosovo/Bosnia as well, the CIA air dropped weapons for Al Qaeda there. Libya and Syria are two more examples, it cannot be disputed.

 

One thing is for sure though....we're in for some interesting times ahead as the geopolitical landscape changes

How do you see Israel faring in the future? They have little to no natural resources, I don't imagine the Saudi's like them or any of their neighbours but they have virtually unconditional backing from the USA. Do you think that will be enough or is the future bleak for the 'chosen ones'?
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I read through this post kinda of fast... skimming as I read but, what stuck out to me was the mention of Oil,West,Russia. We made a hugh mistake leaving Iraq the way we did. The other is the dependency of oil. These are puppet strings to those countries that can't produce or have limited supplys of oil/gas. The West and UK need to be self sufficient by working together on meeting those demands. Other countries who use there resources oil/gas can't afford to dictate to the world there policies if nobody's buying there products. One more thing a week leader who doesn't stand up to the red line..... just has no bowhonas....

One of the unintended consequences of the Iraq invasion was that the Shia (pro Iranians) used the democratic elections and won most of the power. The Saudi's (who pushed for the invasion) were horrified as this led to a re-balancing of power in the ME with the Iranians + Iraq and Syria becoming at least as powerful if not more powerful that the Arab States.

 

The Saudis have had the West by the balls for decades because of our dependence on oil, think about it why does our media always talk of threats to the US when talking about Libya, or Syria or Iran? They can't invade us, they have no nukes and we could turn them in to glass in under 10 minutes flat. But if people realised that it is actually Saudi and their oil trade that is being threatened they won't get behind anymore wars....and that is already happening.

 

The USA is in a very powerful situation right now, their shale oil/gas technology reduces the Saudi influence on US, the Saudi's know it as well which is partly why they increased production by 1.5 million barrels per day...to damage the shale companies and also to pressurise Russia in to giving up on Assad. They also bought officials including the Clintons and probably a lot in the UK like Hammond. If Europe could embrace fracking and work with the US we would not need Saudi oil ever again, it's not even a good quality oil, it's high sulphur and nasty heavy stuff unlike the sweet US blends.

 

The problem for the US is that it actually became an empire of sorts, after the Soviet Union collapsed it had free reign to gobble up countries and put them in to it's sphere of influence...Now the empire has reaching it's peak and because of the huge US debt it is receding and leaving a vacuum which is being exploited by other countries. One of the things this empire did was to use Saudi funded terror groups to overthrow countries, it started with Afghanistan but they were used in Kosovo/Bosnia as well, the CIA air dropped weapons for Al Qaeda there. Libya and Syria are two more examples, it cannot be disputed.

 

One thing is for sure though....we're in for some interesting times ahead as the geopolitical landscape changes

How do you see Israel faring in the future? They have little to no natural resources, I don't imagine the Saudi's like them or any of their neighbours but they have virtually unconditional backing from the USA. Do you think that will be enough or is the future bleak for the 'chosen ones'?

 

 

The funny thing is that Saudi and Israel share a common enemy which is Iran + Syria + Hezbollah so for all the jew hating stuff that comes out of Saudi and their terrorists they have a symbiotic relationship and both are major US allies, I doubt anything can ever happen against Israel, not to mention Israel has a lot of nukes and would annihilate anyone who posed a serious threat.

 

Israel has a big interest (role?) in the destabilisation of Syria. I sounds like at least some weapons and fighters went across the border from Israel although many went via Jordan, there were reports and videos that Israel was treating AL Qaeda in their hospitals, I think it suits Israel down to the ground that there is constant conflict in countries like Syria.

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