Jobs How Hard

[tb25 4,626]

Plenty of Xmas work this time of year.shit hours shit pay but it's there..

[terryd 8,078]

With the physical work there are two types of folks. Some will use any excuse to stop for a fag or a chat and others just want to get there head down and crack on with the job they are given.

Get your foot in the door with a trial or some thing and prove which one you are.

[Greyman 25,343]

I am totally unemployable to a firm and have been most of my life, I have raised three kids put one through uni, bought a house own several vehicles and live a relatively comfy life, the answer is just hard graft, if your not shy of work you will be ok, I have a tipper I collect scrap in, I sell shit on eBay, I do plastering, and work a day a week in a scaffolding yard clearing up and greasing fittings, I,m in my mid 50,s and the last proper job I had was in 93 for two years, if your a cleaner get some flyers printed and go cleaning, all you need is a Henry, some polish and a rocket up your ass

[tatsblisters 7,968]

I found a lot of thoses with all theses qualifications that are in charge or come straight from uni lack common sense or don't have the on the job skills they have just been taught out of a book in a class room and have the paper to say they can do the job but finding someone that's reliable and will graft is getting harder especially if there English

Sad to say this is a reality in the warehouse I work 3 different English lads have come in the last 3 months as FLT drivers not realy a physically demanding job but all 3 knocked on their trial period.

[DogFox123 1,379]

These zero hour contracts are the real killer, just a way to brag about employment levels rising when in fact they aren't at all. What good is a zero hour contract to anyone.

[terryd 8,078]

They should be out lawed absolutely ridiculous

[Lloyd90 509]

These zero hour contracts are the real killer, just a way to brag about employment levels rising when in fact they aren't at all. What good is a zero hour contract to anyone.

I have a zero hour contract as a student.

 

I can pick up lots of work when I want and when I'm busy with assignments etc I often turn down down.

 

The issue is people being employed practically regularly and being refused a proper contract after years of work.

 

There's plenty who get a contract and go on the sick tho, seen it myself many times, soon as they get contract with full pay boom on the sick with an op they been waiting for etc. If I was an employer I'd be pissed off n all!

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

These zero hour contracts are the real killer, just a way to brag about employment levels rising when in fact they aren't at all. What good is a zero hour contract to anyone.

I have a zero hour contract as a student.

 

I can pick up lots of work when I want and when I'm busy with assignments etc I often turn down down.

 

The issue is people being employed practically regularly and being refused a proper contract after years of work.

 

There's plenty who get a contract and go on the sick tho, seen it myself many times, soon as they get contract with full pay boom on the sick with an op they been waiting for etc. If I was an employer I'd be pissed off n all!

No good to any man wanting a secure job, not everybody has the luxury of being able to go into Uni or other adult learning. I don't think it's fair fcuking hard working men over just incase one may throw a sickie.... Edited October 11, 2016 by DogFox123

[Lloyd90 509]

 

 

These zero hour contracts are the real killer, just a way to brag about employment levels rising when in fact they aren't at all. What good is a zero hour contract to anyone.

I have a zero hour contract as a student.

 

I can pick up lots of work when I want and when I'm busy with assignments etc I often turn down down.

 

The issue is people being employed practically regularly and being refused a proper contract after years of work.

 

There's plenty who get a contract and go on the sick tho, seen it myself many times, soon as they get contract with full pay boom on the sick with an op they been waiting for etc. If I was an employer I'd be pissed off n all!

No good to any man wanting a secure job, not everybody has the luxury of being able to go into Uni or other adult learning. I don't think it's fair fcuking hard working men over just incase one may throw a sickie....

It certainly ain't been a luxury mate having to study and work to support myself at the same time! Lots of students are lazy b*****ds who complain there skint but I've worked with plenty of nurses work a 40 hour week free as placement then doing 20 hour weekend bank shifts as nursing assistant whilst also writing assignments etc.

 

It ain't no good having zero hour contracts for working full time blokes, they're handy for students and people who WANT to what to work part time.

 

Sickness and pay however are much more complex than "one man pulling a sickie". I've recently been in council teams and places where over half the staff team are off on long term sickness on full pay. Councils are notorious for it in the past, although I do hear they're cracking down on it now and it's not as bad as it was!

 

One home I worked had ended up closed down as they just couldn't continue, the huge staff sickness was a massive contributor to this. Those people who sat at home on full pay taking the piss will be unemployed now and it's their own fault IMO!

 

I'm not talking about the odd day either, specifically people who have 6 months off on full pay, come back just before 6 months is up ( yougo to half pay after 6 months) and then go back on the sick for another 6 months once been back for a week. If you were genuinely ill you wouldn't suddenly be ok just before you go onto half pay!!

 

If you were an employer would you put up with that ? Thats our tax money being spent on people sat at home repeatedly! Plus then they gotta pay someone else and an agency to come in and do the work that skiver should be doing!

Edited October 11, 2016 by Lloyd90

[DogFox123 1,379]

I'm not knocking you but some people can't afford to study due to financial or personal reasons. But that's the thing, zero hour contracts should be made an option not the only option as they are for most standard jobs these days.

 

I agree the system is fcuked but zero hour contracts are not the solution IMO.

[bird 9,596]

 

 

There's jobs out there. It if you got no qualification and no skills there ain't much demand sorry mate.

 

What can you do that someone else can't ?

very good point that,

Glad someone agrees, it ain't a dig at the OP but a genuine question. Some people don't get on well at school etc, but if you were an employer would you give a job you needed filling to someone who's got a load of qualification, proving they can count, read, write etc , or take a chance on someone who don't have any and hope they can do all those things ?

 

A lot of people complain they can't get a job but don't put much work in to get one.

 

Even if not qualified you can do small course, volunteer, learn skills that lead to work. I've volunteered loads of places, done unpaid internships and that and it's led to top experience and work paying £11-15 an hour , not bad for a student at the moment.

 

I didn't leave school with much cos wasn't interested at the time, more interested in rugby, beer and getting my leg over. Had to struggle doing an access course but hopefully next summer will be leaving uni with a degree and into a decent job. And I've worked flat out, on a few occasions having 2 jobs whilst studying full time. It ain't easy but it'll put me a step above other candidates for jobs that's for sure! Your never too old to go train or learn a skill!

 

spot on, now i tell you how it can go wrong , i am 64 now yeh old fart lol, worked near all my life as a manual worker, thats at local brewery ,factories ,and on building sites . i hurt my back in 1982 , had couple slipped dics back then, because i was younger you heal, and get back to work.i got a job at local brewery was there 23 years, but my back started to get worse, as ive said on here lots of times regards bad backs. i had to finish work at 50, but the brewery done a deal with me and got a low wage just bit better than the dole, plus my wife had good job, so we just about survived . my injury is w/t from digging,on sites, and man handling 3000 kegs a day.. ive got a 29 year old son, and i told him for god sake get a education which he did , got a degree at uni , and now jot a good job working on pensions in a office , he wont end up like me a bloke with little education , and now i get bad sicita a trapped nerve in my lower back, as i type this the pain there 24/7 iam just about getting through the day, and just about taking my dogs out to empty out, when your in pain all the while its murder .i was told back then from doctors it back injury from the work ive done, if only i would learned bit more at school, and got a better type job, i wouldnt have ended up a feckin crippled back like now. manual workers are 10 /a /penny, low wages immigrants etc, why end up like that i say to any person young or old try to better your self and get the best job out there try to learn a skill something you never thought of before , like it said on here show a employer you got something to offer them

[king 11,664]

 

 

 

There's jobs out there. It if you got no qualification and no skills there ain't much demand sorry mate.

What can you do that someone else can't ?

 

very good point that,

Glad someone agrees, it ain't a dig at the OP but a genuine question. Some people don't get on well at school etc, but if you were an employer would you give a job you needed filling to someone who's got a load of qualification, proving they can count, read, write etc , or take a chance on someone who don't have any and hope they can do all those things ?

A lot of people complain they can't get a job but don't put much work in to get one.

Even if not qualified you can do small course, volunteer, learn skills that lead to work. I've volunteered loads of places, done unpaid internships and that and it's led to top experience and work paying £11-15 an hour , not bad for a student at the moment.

I didn't leave school with much cos wasn't interested at the time, more interested in rugby, beer and getting my leg over. Had to struggle doing an access course but hopefully next summer will be leaving uni with a degree and into a decent job. And I've worked flat out, on a few occasions having 2 jobs whilst studying full time. It ain't easy but it'll put me a step above other candidates for jobs that's for sure! Your never too old to go train or learn a skill!

spot on, now i tell you how it can go wrong , i am 64 now yeh old fart lol, worked near all my life as a manual worker, thats at local brewery ,factories ,and on building sites . i hurt my back in 1982 , had couple slipped dics back then, because i was younger you heal, and get back to work.i got a job at local brewery was there 23 years, but my back started to get worse, as ive said on here lots of times regards bad backs. i had to finish work at 50, but the brewery done a deal with me and got a low wage just bit better than the dole, plus my wife had good job, so we just about survived . my injury is w/t from digging,on sites, and man handling 3000 kegs a day.. ive got a 29 year old son, and i told him for god sake get a education which he did , got a degree at uni , and now jot a good job working on pensions in a office , he wont end up like me a bloke with little education , and now i get bad sicita a trapped nerve in my lower back, as i type this the pain there 24/7 iam just about getting through the day, and just about taking my dogs out to empty out, when your in pain all the while its murder .i was told back then from doctors it back injury from the work ive done, if only i would learned bit more at school, and got a better type job, i wouldnt have ended up a feckin crippled back like now. manual workers are 10 /a /penny, low wages immigrants etc, why end up like that i say to any person young or old try to better your self and get the best job out there try to learn a skill something you never thought of before , like it said on here show a employer you got something to offer them

Real life storys from people like your self bird.

Should be told to the youngsters in school.

But to be honest i think it would go in 1 ear and out of the other with most.

But there will be a few youngsters who would take that on board.

Just like your lad.fair play to him getting a degree.

[DogFox123 1,379]

 

 

 

 

There's jobs out there. It if you got no qualification and no skills there ain't much demand sorry mate.

 

What can you do that someone else can't ?

very good point that,

Glad someone agrees, it ain't a dig at the OP but a genuine question. Some people don't get on well at school etc, but if you were an employer would you give a job you needed filling to someone who's got a load of qualification, proving they can count, read, write etc , or take a chance on someone who don't have any and hope they can do all those things ?

 

A lot of people complain they can't get a job but don't put much work in to get one.

 

Even if not qualified you can do small course, volunteer, learn skills that lead to work. I've volunteered loads of places, done unpaid internships and that and it's led to top experience and work paying £11-15 an hour , not bad for a student at the moment.

 

I didn't leave school with much cos wasn't interested at the time, more interested in rugby, beer and getting my leg over. Had to struggle doing an access course but hopefully next summer will be leaving uni with a degree and into a decent job. And I've worked flat out, on a few occasions having 2 jobs whilst studying full time. It ain't easy but it'll put me a step above other candidates for jobs that's for sure! Your never too old to go train or learn a skill!

spot on, now i tell you how it can go wrong , i am 64 now yeh old fart lol, worked near all my life as a manual worker, thats at local brewery ,factories ,and on building sites . i hurt my back in 1982 , had couple slipped dics back then, because i was younger you heal, and get back to work.i got a job at local brewery was there 23 years, but my back started to get worse, as ive said on here lots of times regards bad backs. i had to finish work at 50, but the brewery done a deal with me and got a low wage just bit better than the dole, plus my wife had good job, so we just about survived . my injury is w/t from digging,on sites, and man handling 3000 kegs a day.. ive got a 29 year old son, and i told him for god sake get a education which he did , got a degree at uni , and now jot a good job working on pensions in a office , he wont end up like me a bloke with little education , and now i get bad sicita a trapped nerve in my lower back, as i type this the pain there 24/7 iam just about getting through the day, and just about taking my dogs out to empty out, when your in pain all the while its murder .i was told back then from doctors it back injury from the work ive done, if only i would learned bit more at school, and got a better type job, i wouldnt have ended up a feckin crippled back like now. manual workers are 10 /a /penny, low wages immigrants etc, why end up like that i say to any person young or old try to better your self and get the best job out there try to learn a skill something you never thought of before , like it said on here show a employer you got something to offer them

I fully agree but over here it's not what you know it's who you know, I know of men who are academically very poor but have got great paying jobs, 60k plus...

 

Of course you should aim to have a great education first and foremost but what about these laborious jobs? Someone has to do it.

[tatsblisters 7,968]

 

 

 

There's jobs out there. It if you got no qualification and no skills there ain't much demand sorry mate.

 

What can you do that someone else can't ?

very good point that,

Glad someone agrees, it ain't a dig at the OP but a genuine question. Some people don't get on well at school etc, but if you were an employer would you give a job you needed filling to someone who's got a load of qualification, proving they can count, read, write etc , or take a chance on someone who don't have any and hope they can do all those things ?

 

A lot of people complain they can't get a job but don't put much work in to get one.

 

Even if not qualified you can do small course, volunteer, learn skills that lead to work. I've volunteered loads of places, done unpaid internships and that and it's led to top experience and work paying £11-15 an hour , not bad for a student at the moment.

 

I didn't leave school with much cos wasn't interested at the time, more interested in rugby, beer and getting my leg over. Had to struggle doing an access course but hopefully next summer will be leaving uni with a degree and into a decent job. And I've worked flat out, on a few occasions having 2 jobs whilst studying full time. It ain't easy but it'll put me a step above other candidates for jobs that's for sure! Your never too old to go train or learn a skill!

 

spot on, now i tell you how it can go wrong , i am 64 now yeh old fart lol, worked near all my life as a manual worker, thats at local brewery ,factories ,and on building sites . i hurt my back in 1982 , had couple slipped dics back then, because i was younger you heal, and get back to work.i got a job at local brewery was there 23 years, but my back started to get worse, as ive said on here lots of times regards bad backs. i had to finish work at 50, but the brewery done a deal with me and got a low wage just bit better than the dole, plus my wife had good job, so we just about survived . my injury is w/t from digging,on sites, and man handling 3000 kegs a day.. ive got a 29 year old son, and i told him for god sake get a education which he did , got a degree at uni , and now jot a good job working on pensions in a office , he wont end up like me a bloke with little education , and now i get bad sicita a trapped nerve in my lower back, as i type this the pain there 24/7 iam just about getting through the day, and just about taking my dogs out to empty out, when your in pain all the while its murder .i was told back then from doctors it back injury from the work ive done, if only i would learned bit more at school, and got a better type job, i wouldnt have ended up a feckin crippled back like now. manual workers are 10 /a /penny, low wages immigrants etc, why end up like that i say to any person young or old try to better your self and get the best job out there try to learn a skill something you never thought of before , like it said on here show a employer you got something to offer them

 

Never a truer word spoken their is not even respect these days for manual grafters.Thing is years ago when I was at school their was always well paid jobs in the pitts or steelworks causing a lott of lads like me just to feck about and not take school seriously and by eck am I paying for it now all that feking about and not getting a good education.

[king 11,664]

 

 

 

 

There's jobs out there. It if you got no qualification and no skills there ain't much demand sorry mate.

What can you do that someone else can't ?

very good point that,

Glad someone agrees, it ain't a dig at the OP but a genuine question. Some people don't get on well at school etc, but if you were an employer would you give a job you needed filling to someone who's got a load of qualification, proving they can count, read, write etc , or take a chance on someone who don't have any and hope they can do all those things ?

A lot of people complain they can't get a job but don't put much work in to get one.

Even if not qualified you can do small course, volunteer, learn skills that lead to work. I've volunteered loads of places, done unpaid internships and that and it's led to top experience and work paying £11-15 an hour , not bad for a student at the moment.

I didn't leave school with much cos wasn't interested at the time, more interested in rugby, beer and getting my leg over. Had to struggle doing an access course but hopefully next summer will be leaving uni with a degree and into a decent job. And I've worked flat out, on a few occasions having 2 jobs whilst studying full time. It ain't easy but it'll put me a step above other candidates for jobs that's for sure! Your never too old to go train or learn a skill!

spot on, now i tell you how it can go wrong , i am 64 now yeh old fart lol, worked near all my life as a manual worker, thats at local brewery ,factories ,and on building sites . i hurt my back in 1982 , had couple slipped dics back then, because i was younger you heal, and get back to work.i got a job at local brewery was there 23 years, but my back started to get worse, as ive said on here lots of times regards bad backs. i had to finish work at 50, but the brewery done a deal with me and got a low wage just bit better than the dole, plus my wife had good job, so we just about survived . my injury is w/t from digging,on sites, and man handling 3000 kegs a day.. ive got a 29 year old son, and i told him for god sake get a education which he did , got a degree at uni , and now jot a good job working on pensions in a office , he wont end up like me a bloke with little education , and now i get bad sicita a trapped nerve in my lower back, as i type this the pain there 24/7 iam just about getting through the day, and just about taking my dogs out to empty out, when your in pain all the while its murder .i was told back then from doctors it back injury from the work ive done, if only i would learned bit more at school, and got a better type job, i wouldnt have ended up a feckin crippled back like now. manual workers are 10 /a /penny, low wages immigrants etc, why end up like that i say to any person young or old try to better your self and get the best job out there try to learn a skill something you never thought of before , like it said on here show a employer you got something to offer them

I fully agree but over here it's not what you know it's who you know, I know of men who are academically very poor but have got great paying jobs, 60k plus...

Of course you should aim to have a great education first and foremost but what about these laborious jobs? Someone has to do it.

And if you want to do a labourius job.do it.if you dont want to dont.

Learn.train.etc and do something else.

 

If you keep doing what you allways have.

Youll only have'what youve allways had.