Lurcher Crosses

[Greyman 31,511]

I,m not trying to be cantacorous, but I find it quite funny on here reading all the story,s regarding, this cross and that cross, IE I,ve got a bull,saluki whippet crossed with Billy's collie greyhound deerhound etc etc, when really lurchers are just mongrels and unless you are crossing from pedigree breeds you don't really know what percentage of what is in the mix, I have never cared about what was in the mix of my dogs as much as what size it will be or is it smooth or rough etc because these things matter because of the land I hunt over and the style of my hunting, so why are people so obsessed with certain crosses when in truth you are just taking the word of the vendor who could tell you anything, I have a collie cross, purely for the fact he,s predominantly white with a black face and saddle, and everyone I meet comes running over to tell me he,s a Hancock dog, (he,s not) I can clearly see he has a lot of collie in his make up but other than that I don't have a scooby about him other than he,s 24 tts and rough coated, we mostly work small fields with lots of hedge cover for which his size and coat are perfect, so why are so many people nowadays obsessed with certain crosses ? I,m just curious as it was never really an issue when I started almost 35 year ago, if I had a good un the right size and coat, I put it across someone else's good un of the right size and coat and we normally got what we wanted from it, ???

[General lee 979]

You have a working dog because he has a white face and saddle? And I think people want to know what is in the dogs makeup to give them some idea of what to expect and they choose as to what suits them if I was hunting rabbits I would look for a smaller type like a Bridlington or a collie cross if it was hares I would look for a saluki type not hap hazardly pick a dog because it has a certain marking

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

Well when crossing dogs I like to know what's in them as you can gauge how tall they will make and that is probably the biggest factor of lurchers. U choose a small dog for small stuff. A big dog for bigger stuff. A medium dog for a little bit of this n that. Also think temperaments that certain breeds ad is probably the most important of all. I get on with collie xs as they do as they say and quite versatile (not all).

But some people can't stand even a small amount of collie in a lurcher...

[green dragon 701]

Well when crossing dogs I like to know what's in them as you can gauge how tall they will make and that is probably the biggest factor of lurchers. U choose a small dog for small stuff. A big dog for bigger stuff. A medium dog for a little bit of this n that. Also think temperaments that certain breeds ad is probably the most important of all. I get on with collie xs as they do as they say and quite versatile (not all).

But some people can't stand even a small amount of collie in a lurcher...

Simple as that lol

[Greyman 31,511]

You have a working dog because he has a white face and saddle? And I think people want to know what is in the dogs makeup to give them some idea of what to expect and they choose as to what suits them if I was hunting rabbits I would look for a smaller type like a Bridlington or a collie cross if it was hares I would look for a saluki type not hap hazardly pick a dog because it has a certain marking

i never said I got a dog because he,s white I said I got a dog because his size and coat suits the type of land I work on, and not because he is bred by crossing a meriad of breeds that are more often just what people tell you, I am only asking because I have never really known it until I came on here, people just seem a little obsessed with certain crosses, when in truth most are mongrels and the owners only know what people have told them,

[Greyman 31,511]

Well when crossing dogs I like to know what's in them as you can gauge how tall they will make and that is probably the biggest factor of lurchers. U choose a small dog for small stuff. A big dog for bigger stuff. A medium dog for a little bit of this n that. Also think temperaments that certain breeds ad is probably the most important of all. I get on with collie xs as they do as they say and quite versatile (not all).

But some people can't stand even a small amount of collie in a lurcher...

I agree with what your saying, but it's just some people seem obsessed with almost having a pedigree of the dogs make up, I am a bit new to the net so it's just a bit strange seeing title upon title of threads starting with things like "2/8collie 1/8bull 3/8 grey 2/8 saluki any one else got this cross" Were as I grew up thinking a lurcher is a lurcher, and two good uns of the right size should throw you what you want, I,m only curious,

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

Ye I agree total waste of time working out percentages like that as u won't have a jar of glue.

Only way I would use a percentage is if it's like my pup 3/4 grey 1/4 collie. If your explaining how it's bred it abit easier using percentages sometimes.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

I,m not trying to be cantacorous, but I find it quite funny on here reading all the story,s regarding, this cross and that cross, IE I,ve got a bull,saluki whippet crossed with Billy's collie greyhound deerhound etc etc, when really lurchers are just mongrels and unless you are crossing from pedigree breeds you don't really know what percentage of what is in the mix, I have never cared about what was in the mix of my dogs as much as what size it will be or is it smooth or rough etc because these things matter because of the land I hunt over and the style of my hunting, so why are people so obsessed with certain crosses when in truth you are just taking the word of the vendor who could tell you anything, I have a collie cross, purely for the fact he,s predominantly white with a black face and saddle, and everyone I meet comes running over to tell me he,s a Hancock dog, (he,s not) I can clearly see he has a lot of collie in his make up but other than that I don't have a scooby about him other than he,s 24 tts and rough coated, we mostly work small fields with lots of hedge cover for which his size and coat are perfect, so why are so many people nowadays obsessed with certain crosses ? I,m just curious as it was never really an issue when I started almost 35 year ago, if I had a good un the right size and coat, I put it across someone else's good un of the right size and coat and we normally got what we wanted from it, ???

How do you know yours isn't a Hancock? Did the vendor tell you it wasn't? Lol

[socks 32,253]

I can remember adverts in the shooting news 35 years ago stating the cross in each lurcher that was for sale in the adverts pages ... How can you decide on a pup if you have no idea what's in his make up ... I certainly wouldn't be picking a pup on its size alone .......

[nothernlite 18,260]

Of course you want to know what in them

[Maximus Ferret 2,065]

I can remember adverts in the shooting news 35 years ago stating the cross in each lurcher that was for sale in the adverts pages ... How can you decide on a pup if you have no idea what's in his make up ... I certainly wouldn't be picking a pup on its size alone .......

And in the exchange and mart before the shooting news existed.People have always wanted to have an idea what was in their dogs and sellers have always said what was in them, even if it was sometimes a bit fictional. It's nothing new and if you've been into lurchers for 35 years I don't know how you've missed it.

I bought my first collie cross before "Hancocks Lurchers" even existed and a popular type then was deer/grey x collie grey.

Edited September 27, 2016 by Maximus Ferret

[king 12,029]

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Edited September 27, 2016 by king

[low plains drifter 11,182]

You have a working dog because he has a white face and saddle? And I think people want to know what is in the dogs makeup to give them some idea of what to expect and they choose as to what suits them if I was hunting rabbits I would look for a smaller type like a Bridlington or a collie cross if it was hares I would look for a saluki type not hap hazardly pick a dog because it has a certain marking

Bridlington crosses, are'nt they the 800 year old line that can be trained what not to chase and are bred in the east riding ?

[General lee 979]

 

You have a working dog because he has a white face and saddle? And I think people want to know what is in the dogs makeup to give them some idea of what to expect and they choose as to what suits them if I was hunting rabbits I would look for a smaller type like a Bridlington or a collie cross if it was hares I would look for a saluki type not hap hazardly pick a dog because it has a certain marking

Bridlington crosses, are'nt they the 800 year old line that can be trained what not to chase and are bred in the east riding ?

Yeh that's the ones they go back 800 years in the same family that actually invented the lurcher

[General lee 979]

 

You have a working dog because he has a white face and saddle? And I think people want to know what is in the dogs makeup to give them some idea of what to expect and they choose as to what suits them if I was hunting rabbits I would look for a smaller type like a Bridlington or a collie cross if it was hares I would look for a saluki type not hap hazardly pick a dog because it has a certain marking

i never said I got a dog because he,s white I said I got a dog because his size and coat suits the type of land I work on, and not because he is bred by crossing a meriad of breeds that are more often just what people tell you, I am only asking because I have never really known it until I came on here, people just seem a little obsessed with certain crosses, when in truth most are mongrels and the owners only know what people have told them,

 

You have a working dog because he has a white face and saddle? And I think people want to know what is in the dogs makeup to give them some idea of what to expect and they choose as to what suits them if I was hunting rabbits I would look for a smaller type like a Bridlington or a collie cross if it was hares I would look for a saluki type not hap hazardly pick a dog because it has a certain marking

i never said I got a dog because he,s white I said I got a dog because his size and coat suits the type of land I work on, and not because he is bred by crossing a meriad of breeds that are more often just what people tell you, I am only asking because I have never really known it until I came on here, people just seem a little obsessed with certain crosses, when in truth most are mongrels and the owners only know what people have told them,

 

 

 

 

No you said you have a collie cross purely for the fact he is predominantly white with a black face and saddle