Attempted Isis Knife Attack On Raf Personnel Here

[kanny 21,759]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3700306/amp/British-airman-attacked-knife-wielding-assailants-outside-RAF-base-raids-launched-against-ISIS-possible-terror-attack.html?client=ms-android-sonymobile#

[tatsblisters 11,132]

All the armed forces personell should be allowed to carry a concealed firearm imho.

[Chid 6,844]

All the armed forces personell should be allowed to carry a concealed firearm imho.

I'm sure there still allowed to in northern Ireland should be the same on the mainland imo

[Chid 6,844]

 

All the armed forces personell should be allowed to carry a concealed firearm imho.

I'm sure there still allowed to in northern Ireland should be the same on the mainland imo

In fact members of the public can be issued with a permit for concealed carry for personal protection... If the police accept they require one (politicians, ex police, ex prison wardens ect)

[kanny 21,759]

 

 

 

All the armed forces personell should be allowed to carry a concealed firearm imho.

I'm sure there still allowed to in northern Ireland should be the same on the mainland imo

In fact members of the public can be issued with a permit for concealed carry for personal protection... If the police accept they require one (politicians, ex police, ex prison wardens ect)

You beat me to it but what I will say is the fact that these terrorist had to use knifes shows we have our gun laws right where the general public are concerned

[tatsblisters 11,132]

Better I few ISIS wanabees dead than any member of our armed forces or any other innocent member of the public.

[Born Hunter 17,965]

 

 

 

All the armed forces personell should be allowed to carry a concealed firearm imho.

I'm sure there still allowed to in northern Ireland should be the same on the mainland imo

In fact members of the public can be issued with a permit for concealed carry for personal protection... If the police accept they require one (politicians, ex police, ex prison wardens ect)

You beat me to it but what I will say is the fact that these terrorist had to use knifes shows we have our gun laws right where the general public are concerned

 

 

Why does it? Do terrorists on the continent where pistols and automatic rifles are often legal use legally held firearms in their terrorist activities?

 

Reality is that because British citizens do not even remotely routinely carry any weapon for personal defense, attackers do not need firearms to provide force when a blunt object, a blade or a couple of mates will suffice.

 

It's not the availability of firearms to responsible citizens that stops bad guys using guns in attacks, it's the fact that firearms are not used at all for personal defense so makes acquiring them not worth the bother.

 

Also, I don't think this has been confirmed as terrorism yet? Just possible/probable as Marham is base to our attack squadrons currently bombing IS.

Edited July 21, 2016 by Born Hunter

[kanny 21,759]

If everyone shared your gun sense BH it wouldn't be a problem but that's not the case is it.. Organised terror will get it's hands on guns no matter what but as recent times have shown it's the loan wolf's who are doing the damage...this kidnap attempt would have been a very different story if they had been packing.

[JDHUNTING 1,817]

Summat seriously wrong when your armed forces can't wear uniform in there own country,i really feel sorry for our guys who are doing the dirty work abroad knowing there families in the UK are in as much danger of being targeted as they are.

Edited July 21, 2016 by JDHUNTING

[Born Hunter 17,965]

If everyone shared your gun sense BH it wouldn't be a problem but that's not the case is it.. Organised terror will get it's hands on guns no matter what but as recent times have shown it's the loan wolf's who are doing the damage...this kidnap attempt would have been a very different story if they had been packing.

 

I don't deny that mate. What I take issue with is the suggestion that the reason these lone wolves don't use firearms is because of our extremely prohibitive gun laws. Obvious with total gun freedom or similar such as in states like the US then legal firearms are more easily acquired by dodgy people but that does not mean our gun laws are right or proven effective. There is significant room for movement towards greater gun liberty without changing this outcome at all. Reality is, that if these lone wolves thought they needed a gun, they would get one and if the easiest way was to steal legally held firearms then even with our current laws a sawn-off stolen shotgun would be ideal.

 

They don't though. If they did they would more easily acquire an illegal one; how many shipments of scorpions and Kalashnikovs have been busted in the last year alone by UK police?

 

IMO the single biggest factor in these small fry not using firearms is because there's no need, as we (their targets) do not even so much as carry any weapon for personal protection. And the bigger fish looking to do a mass killing easily get assault weapons and bombs.

[mackem 30,239]

Mass killing lone-wolves nowadays just use trucks as we recently saw,to be honest anyone with real genuine malice aforethought who is a little bit inventive or a lateral thinker is spoilt for choice regarding means and methods of offing joe public.

[greg64 3,067]

If everyone shared your gun sense BH it wouldn't be a problem but that's not the case is it.. Organised terror will get it's hands on guns no matter what but as recent times have shown it's the loan wolf's who are doing the damage...this kidnap attempt would have been a very different story if they had been packing.

any one can get hold of a hunting crossbow which would be as effective

[socks 32,253]

You can't behead somebody with a gun ... Hence the use of knives .....

[kanny 21,759]

You can't behead somebody with a gun ... Hence the use of knives .....

You could with a 50cal lol

[lanesra 4,007]

If the lad would of turned the knife on them & killed them (if only) I wonder how those in power would of reacted ??

News saying not sure if it was a terrorist act . . Have these clowns been living on the Moon , hang on here's a clue LEE RIGBY . . off course it was !!