Favored Line Of Border Collies For Lurcher Crosses?

[Phil Lloyd 10,739]

Cattle that are unused to being worked by a dog, can be extremely dangerous,.they can stomp on a canine, in moments..

Dogs need to be aware of such things,..

Sometimes, when out ferreting the rabbits, steers and bullocks will cause a whole lot of carnage, especially if they take a fancy to tearing up your Long Nets,...

If they will not keep clear,.then you sometimes need to send in the dog,...it really is the only way...

Edited July 20, 2016 by Phil Lloyd

[jiggy 3,209]

 

If you,ve 50 mad bullocks in a slatted shed all winter and they break out on to a fresh spring pasture with the sun on their backs and dont want to go back in that shed then pick the dog that can safely and quickly get the job done without taking no for an answer.

Thats a great analogy and post Jiggy.

what i find the funniest thing about it is if 100 men were giving their choice of 100 sires they would all point out the very same dog from the group as the top pick but if they had to travel for the service, take time off work or were put to any inconvenience only a small amount of lads will go the extra mile to get that dog and the rest will use the shit dog next door because its handy and end up with 8 shit pups. Edited July 19, 2016 by jiggy

[Dan McDonough 560]

Looks a powerful animal Dan.

The merle from the collie influence?

I hope you come across the dog your looking for this summer and the 2 you have turn out good.

It is a difficult thing to explain what your talking about, that old dog of mine had a presence about him and he never bothered with folk, unless he wanted too and even then would turn his back on them.

You just know a good dog.

Atb

The merle is from the leopard hound. It's the American Leoaprd Hound and not the Catahoula though. The difference between the two is like the difference between the Blue Tick Hound and a Blue Heeler with the Leopard being a tree dog like the Bluetick. She has a thicker undercoat from the Border Collie and the brains came through in spades. It was wild hunting with her. Her best talent was locating and catching. If another dog got the cat started and was running it you could just walk her into the area and she would stand there for a minute just listening and then she would take off like a rocket and in no time the cat would get caught. She was a puss at holding them and quite often the cat would take off again so we would always have to have a tough dog with to put in with her, most of the time any how. Once in a while she would have a steak of solo catches. Her best streak was 9 bobcats in a row caught on the ground by herself. I've never heard of another dog equaling that. She was quite the dog.

[Chicken_man 1,651]

 

 

Looks a powerful animal Dan.

The merle from the collie influence?

I hope you come across the dog your looking for this summer and the 2 you have turn out good.

It is a difficult thing to explain what your talking about, that old dog of mine had a presence about him and he never bothered with folk, unless he wanted too and even then would turn his back on them.

You just know a good dog.

Atb

The merle is from the leopard hound. It's the American Leoaprd Hound and not the Catahoula though. The difference between the two is like the difference between the Blue Tick Hound and a Blue Heeler with the Leopard being a tree dog like the Bluetick. She has a thicker undercoat from the Border Collie and the brains came through in spades. It was wild hunting with her. Her best talent was locating and catching. If another dog got the cat started and was running it you could just walk her into the area and she would stand there for a minute just listening and then she would take off like a rocket and in no time the cat would get caught. She was a puss at holding them and quite often the cat would take off again so we would always have to have a tough dog with to put in with her, most of the time any how. Once in a while she would have a steak of solo catches. Her best streak was 9 bobcats in a row caught on the ground by herself. I've never heard of another dog equaling that. She was quite the dog.

I think you have a great way of life out there by the sounds of it.

Bobcat and Coyote will not be easy to handle, so the animals you have will be special.

I thank you for sharing, I find it interesting and informative as do others.

Regards

[Chicken_man 1,651]

Cattle that are unused to being worked by a dog, can be extremely dangerous,.they can stomp on a canine, in moments..

Dogs need to be aware of such things,..

Sometimes, when out ferreting the rabbits, steers and bullocks will cause a whole lot of carnage, especially if they take a fancy to tearing up your Long Nets,...

If they will not keep clear,.then you sometimes need to send in the dog,...it really is the only way...

Had to do that on occasion ?

Lovely dog

Atb

[Wild-Bill 500]

 

 

If you,ve 50 mad bullocks in a slatted shed all winter and they break out on to a fresh spring pasture with the sun on their backs and dont want to go back in that shed then pick the dog that can safely and quickly get the job done without taking no for an answer.

Thats a great analogy and post Jiggy.

what i find the funniest thing about it is if 100 men were giving their choice of 100 sires they would all point out the very same dog from the group as the top pick but if they had to travel for the service, take time off work or were put to any inconvenience only a small amount of lads will go the extra mile to get that dog and the rest will use the shit dog next door because its handy and end up with 8 shit pups.

That's true that, I don't understand why people think like that. If I could use the best available dog about, I personally wouldn't even bother breeding, why waste so much time and effort on something that's not got the best chance of producing the best, I like to make my chance of success the highest so I would use and breed from the best type. Definently not the local or neighbours mutt because it's handy.

[neil cooney 10,416]

A man near me died last was a farm labourer all his life and was good at training sheepdogs. He'd train them while working and eventually sell the dog and start training the next one. He used to get a pretty penny for them too.

I asked one day about a dog he had that I seen working and it was good. I asked him what way it was bred as it didn't look like a Collie (most local Collies when I was growing up were red in colour) he replied "it's been crossed with everything bar a bus." LOL.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

A man near me died last was a farm labourer all his life and was good at training sheepdogs. He'd train them while working and eventually sell the dog and start training the next one. He used to get a pretty penny for them too.

I asked one day about a dog he had that I seen working and it was good. I asked him what way it was bred as it didn't look like a Collie (most local Collies when I was growing up were red in colour) he replied "it's been crossed with everything bar a bus." LOL.

Most of the collies on the farms around here are bred just like that, and I use the term collie sparingly! maybe not the best at gathering sheep off the moor, but mentally they are consistently more stable than many of the pure bred dogs I have come across of late. I have a young lurcher bitch bred down from that type of stock and she is possibly the most even headed, if slightly feral in outlook, collie cross I have had the pleasure (or displeasure!) of owning.

[dai dogs 1,955]

I know a 70 year old farmer and a well respected Border Collie lady that owns around 20 to 25 collies shes not interested in Blood Lines as long as they do the job that she expects from them that is good enough for her.