A Good Time To Gain Permission, Just Ask, The Right Way.

[mark williams 7,568]

For the lads short of a permission, or maybe new and struggling, harvest times are a really good time to gain a permission.

Crops this time of year are usually under pressure from Wood Pigeons and/ or Rabbits,- if they aren`t you dont really want a slow, boring permission anyway, do you ?

Listen out for the farms that have a constant shotgun blast beckoning out each day, ( gas bottled bird scarer) - that farm is under pigeon pressure

To approach a farmer and say - Sorry to bother you, I`m a local lad and see that your crops are under attack from a hell of lot of wood pigeons ( pause, let him think or say - yes they are),- I wondered if you might allow a few days decoying to me, I only use precision air rifles, no noise.

A typical farmer usually replies with "more noise the better" - keeps the buggers away!

 

I always reply, yes I can understand that but you shoot a lot more pigeon when they have no idea you are there.

 

 

This usually gets you a trial shooting session over a good few weeks just now, - so pick on the most pressured farms first.

Once your foot is through the door, the farms usually allow you a full permission.

 

 

Good luck lads.

[tomburras 2,730]

I generally find this to be the worst time of year for shooting!

 

edit: everything waist high and none of my perms are near harvest yet. also found ( i worked on farms for years) that if someone came knocking during harvest time they would not be given the time of day as we where very busy and didn't like to be disturbed.

[mark williams 7,568]

Why`s that Tom ? - here we go 2,3,4

 

 

atb

[tomburras 2,730]

Why`s that Tom ? - here we go 2,3,4

 

 

atb

 

just did a quick edit before you replied oops sorry

 

this was the edit part

 

 

everything waist high and none of my perms are near harvest yet. also found ( i worked on farms for years) that if someone came knocking during harvest time they would not be given the time of day as we where very busy and didn't like to be disturbed.

[mark williams 7,568]

Yes I can respect that Tom and so should the lads trying for permissions.

Your reply was your farm`s reply, not the neighbouring farm`s reply.

Go out and ask lads,- I`ve gained many a yes with this approach at harvest times over the years.

 

 

Good luck !

[tomburras 2,730]

Yes I can respect that Tom and so should the lads trying for permissions.

Your reply was your farm`s reply, not the neighbouring farm`s reply.

Go out and ask lads,- I`ve gained many a yes with this approach at harvest times over the years.

 

 

Good luck !

 

Very true! people very are different but found farmers pretty similar. - but thats just my experience in yorkshire.

 

What I found works well is trying when harvest and autumn cultivations are finished then its a calmer time and crops are young and vulnerable again, and finally theres less cover and leaves in the trees again.

 

good luck to anyone out door knocking new perms are bloody exiting!

[si brown 8,486]

no farms plant crops round our way any more mark ,its all cows n sheep

and any land without cows or sheep turns into a building site... not bad for my living but losing some good shooting!

got rabbits running round the plots were building

atb si

[villaman 9,982]

Once again wrong time of the year everything is to high . Down our way they will start harvesting in week or two .

Imo the best time is when plants are just showing through the ground ,that is when i start getting a phone calls

[mark williams 7,568]

Opinions accepted but it sure works around here.

 

 

 

Good luck.

[charlie caller 3,654]

Good advice Mark, I would just like to add a small caveat, a lot of farmers, especially round my way, still regard air rifles as toys (possibly due to their own "toys" they played about with as lads) a better approach, in my opinion, is just to ask to shoot the pigeons, not mentioning the type of gun to be used, once you have got permission, use what you like, not wishing to start a shotgun vs air rifle argument, as I use and enjoy both, but if a large bag of pigeon was my goal, it would be the 12 bore everytime,with obvious very limited and debatable exceptions, I have yet to see someone shoot pigeon 40 yards away dropping into decoys with an air rifle, as we all know a pigeon must land before it can be shot with the air rifle, with the shotgun, a bird that comes in and decides it does not like something about the decoys, can still be taken, therefore increasing chances by many times.

[mark williams 7,568]

Now then, now then Charles !

 

That`s rather "un- sporting" don`t you think ?

 

 

atb

[The one 8,589]

I reckon its a bad time of year to get permission as said everything's waist high the farmers cant see much of the pests and if you do get permission you cant do much everything's to high , better waiting till after the harvest i never go near farms looking for permission during the harvest as the farmers are often working round the clock and are stressed out . Better waiting till its all in the farmers are happier and they have seen the damage and vermin that on there land

[tomburras 2,730]

Now then, now then Charles !

 

That`s rather "un- sporting" don`t you think ?

 

 

atb

No its called productive ha ha!

[Nicepix 5,650]

For the lads short of a permission, or maybe new and struggling, harvest times are a really good time to gain a permission.

Crops this time of year are usually under pressure from Wood Pigeons and/ or Rabbits,- if they aren`t you dont really want a slow, boring permission anyway, do you ?

Listen out for the farms that have a constant shotgun blast beckoning out each day, ( gas bottled bird scarer) - that farm is under pigeon pressure

To approach a farmer and say - Sorry to bother you, I`m a local lad and see that your crops are under attack from a hell of lot of wood pigeons ( pause, let him think or say - yes they are),- I wondered if you might allow a few days decoying to me, I only use precision air rifles, no noise.

A typical farmer usually replies with "more noise the better" - keeps the buggers away!

 

I always reply, yes I can understand that but you shoot a lot more pigeon when they have no idea you are there.

 

 

This usually gets you a trial shooting session over a good few weeks just now, - so pick on the most pressured farms first.

Once your foot is through the door, the farms usually allow you a full permission.

 

 

Good luck lads.

 

Do you write fiction for a living?

 

This is the worst time of year to get permission. Crops aren't under pressure from pigeons, etc. That was two or three month's ago at least. If you hear shotguns blasting away, which you won't for reason given above, it is unlikely that a farmer will allow anyone else onto the land even if he has the right to give permission which many if not most tenant farmers haven't. Even less so for an air gunner.

 

As for shooting a lot more pigeons decoying with an air rifle than a shotgun

 

 

I always thought that you had to take Mark's posts with a pinch of Walt

[Jonjon79 13,358]

Oh f**k me .... he's going to be drawing more pictures now

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

God help me, I do like this forum

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ya pair of twats

Edited July 9, 2016 by Jonjon79