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It's alright saying "why don't God stop these things"........well, why don't WE stop these things?

Mankind, always wanting somebody else to wipe it's arse !

Is mankind not looking to stop these things ? .seems like every time we get on top of a disease there's another one coming along that's just as bad or worse and unfortunately praying doesn't seem to get rid of them ..enough prayers where said to stop Ebola but it was man that did for it and it will be man that eventually finds a cure for cancer along with the multitude of ailments that man has already conquered ..I consider myself to be open minded but find it difficult to see how someone / something if given the choice would create so much good then chuck a spanner in the works and create so much shite that threatens to wipe out the good ...

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Over the years the only real thing I believe in is love..I allways keep a open mind and to out a man down for his beleves is wrong just course you don't beleave..as long as you live a good live and h

i don't know about mormons ....but there's a few...morons.............

It's odd because over the years my opinions have changed, part of being an agnostic I suppose? The alien route has some merit and is plausible, but then begs the question how did the aliens develop? T

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What annoys me sometimes is that the scientists atheists whatever, some not all, think bb evolution etc is science fact, when its far from it, was never seen, nor tested, or observed, an never will, so its not science.

 

Billions of years ago lol

 

Its a belief, but they won't admit it.

 

At least we can admit our belief.

If we can manipulate the genetics of animals and plants through selective breeding,why would the natural selection not lead to genetic changes too?

 

And through the generations change an entire species,look what we've done to the wolf in just a few thousand years,imagine how far a species could change in a million years.

More funny photos mate lol

 

From wolf to bag of fur is mans manipulation, not natural selection, natural selection selects what's available, it doesn't create any new information does it, that ball of fur is far from a wolf but its still a DOG is it not.

 

 

It is now,but give it another thousand years of selecting for different traits (especially diet) and it could maybe be reclassified.

 

Give it a million years and it definitely could be,that's all species are,different classifications of life with different traits that reproduce true to type.

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I look at it like this, it's like when you first take your stabilisers off your bike when you are little and your old man gives you a gentle push on the back......how many times you fall off after that is down to how quick you master the bike......and if you keep crashing into walls all the time and dont avoid them then you are an idiot.

 

The bikes this life we have been given and God was your dad giving you the initial little push........after that, it's all down to you

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From what I've gathered dicease is genetic mutations, mostly envoirmental, some passed down threw family tree.

 

If our world was not so poisoned with an array of factors then there wouldn't be much dicease imo

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How can anyone believe the world is 6000 years old is beyond me. We have fact and proven evidence showing civilisations existed longer than 8000 years ago. We have cities/monuments underwater that were last on dry land during the ice age.

 

And some camel jockey comes along says hang about lads some mystical being up in the sky just told me he's ma dad and the world is only 6000 years old lmfao.

 

The bible/torah/Koran are about as much use as a wooden tampon for anything but reiterating historical stories that are thousands of years older than the fuuckin religions that stole them as their own.

 

But as I have discovered previously Francis will come with his king James bible perfect translation bollocks and swear that everybody else is wrong :laugh: :laugh:

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What annoys me sometimes is that the scientists atheists whatever, some not all, think bb evolution etc is science fact, when its far from it, was never seen, nor tested, or observed, an never will, so its not science.

 

Billions of years ago lol

 

Its a belief, but they won't admit it.

 

At least we can admit our belief.

If we can manipulate the genetics of animals and plants through selective breeding,why would the natural selection not lead to genetic changes too?

 

And through the generations change an entire species,look what we've done to the wolf in just a few thousand years,imagine how far a species could change in a million years.

More funny photos mate lol

 

From wolf to bag of fur is mans manipulation, not natural selection, natural selection selects what's available, it doesn't create any new information does it, that ball of fur is far from a wolf but its still a DOG is it not.

It is now,but give it another thousand years of selecting for different traits (especially diet) and it could maybe be reclassified.

 

Give it a million years and it definitely could be,that's all species are,different classifications of life with different traits that reproduce true to type.

You answered your own question mate, are you talking human manipulation of genes or natures way?

 

Say you give it a millions years, how will the animal change kind type whatever, if nature is selecting, because dogs mate with dogs etc that is nature, how will this change come about mate you need to be more specific, I'm talking natures way not in the lab.

 

Look at nature now, each kind mates within its kind, this is observable tested science, were have you ever seen say a dog an cat reproduce, it can't happen, so I fail to see how time will help this, also you say millions or billions of years has passed, surely animasl would be able to breed with different kinds would it not.

 

Your just putting two an three together to get nine,its all guesses, never been seen an iIMO never will.

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How can anyone believe the world is 6000 years old is beyond me. We have fact and proven evidence showing civilisations existed longer than 8000 years ago. We have cities/monuments underwater that were last on dry land during the ice age.

 

And some camel jockey comes along says hang about lads some mystical being up in the sky just told me he's ma dad and the world is only 6000 years old lmfao.

 

The bible/torah/Koran are about as much use as a wooden tampon for anything but reiterating historical stories that are thousands of years older than the fuuckin religions that stole them as their own.

 

But as I have discovered previously Francis will come with his king James bible perfect translation bollocks and swear that everybody else is wrong :laugh: :laugh:[

 

Which civilisations are older mush, the Egyptians is the oldest I think 5000 years, an they weren't dumb, they had good tech, they built the pyramids, so were does this leave the theory we evolved from an ape to human, is there not supposed to be some stupid people in there somewhere I'd think so, but no, records began, boom, an they were smart, so what's the answer to that?

 

Oh an the cities underwater, before the flood the earth was mostly land, then the flood came, no probs there mate.

 

An if you think the worldwide flood didntvhappen, how come we've so much coal oil gas under us, how did it form?

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Lmfao Egyptians the oldest eh ok pal... think you need to go back to school mate.

 

Little know fact; the blue stone in tutankhamun's death mask comes from the ancient kingdom of Batria high up in Afghanistan. This kingdom was mining the stone well before the Egyptians were knocking about and around the same time as the sumerians circa 5000-6000BC bit longer than your 6000year old bollocks. Let's face it these civilisations didn't spring up overnight so we're probably looking 7000 years ago for the first city States. Go back 12000 years ago and we have stone built villages in eastern Turkey with grain stores, streets etc.

 

So all in all ya bible/torah/koran/Mr Men books are full of bollocks ;)

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How can anyone believe the world is 6000 years old is beyond me. We have fact and proven evidence showing civilisations existed longer than 8000 years ago. We have cities/monuments underwater that were last on dry land during the ice age.

 

And some camel jockey comes along says hang about lads some mystical being up in the sky just told me he's ma dad and the world is only 6000 years old lmfao.

 

The bible/torah/Koran are about as much use as a wooden tampon for anything but reiterating historical stories that are thousands of years older than the fuuckin religions that stole them as their own.

 

But as I have discovered previously Francis will come with his king James bible perfect translation bollocks and swear that everybody else is wrong :laugh: :laugh:[

 

Which civilisations are older mush, the Egyptians is the oldest I think 5000 years, an they weren't dumb, they had good tech, they built the pyramids, so were does this leave the theory we evolved from an ape to human, is there not supposed to be some stupid people in there somewhere I'd think so, but no, records began, boom, an they were smart, so what's the answer to that?

 

Oh an the cities underwater, before the flood the earth was mostly land, then the flood came, no probs there mate.

 

An if you think the worldwide flood didnt thappen, how come we've so much coal oil gas under us, how did it form?

Coal, oil and gas is formed by the process of decay and pressure over millions of years ;) and certainly not put there by a flood or deity ffs :laugh:

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How can anyone believe the world is 6000 years old is beyond me. We have fact and proven evidence showing civilisations existed longer than 8000 years ago. We have cities/monuments underwater that were last on dry land during the ice age.

 

And some camel jockey comes along says hang about lads some mystical being up in the sky just told me he's ma dad and the world is only 6000 years old lmfao.

 

The bible/torah/Koran are about as much use as a wooden tampon for anything but reiterating historical stories that are thousands of years older than the fuuckin religions that stole them as their own.

 

But as I have discovered previously Francis will come with his king James bible perfect translation bollocks and swear that everybody else is wrong :laugh: :laugh:[

 

Which civilisations are older mush, the Egyptians is the oldest I think 5000 years, an they weren't dumb, they had good tech, they built the pyramids, so were does this leave the theory we evolved from an ape to human, is there not supposed to be some stupid people in there somewhere I'd think so, but no, records began, boom, an they were smart, so what's the answer to that?

 

Oh an the cities underwater, before the flood the earth was mostly land, then the flood came, no probs there mate.

 

An if you think the worldwide flood didnt thappen, how come we've so much coal oil gas under us, how did it form?

Coal, oil and gas is formed by the process of decay and pressure over millions of years ;) and certainly not put there by a flood or deity ffs :laugh:

 

Millions of years you say so it can't happen in thousands or hundreds of years?

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I give up Francie,I honestly don't think you can wrap your head around the theory of evolution.

 

But as for 'the missing link',have ever seen an Australian abbo?

If we discovered Australia before the enlightenment they'd have been wiped out,as competitors that weren't very competitive.

 

It stands to reason they'd be out competed and killed off.

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Gas can be produced in minutes, crude and coal millions of years.

 

As for your flood theory well there must have been a few floods because all around the world there are layers showing that at one time or another places were underwater several times just look at the grand canyon different types of rock sitting in seperate layers some are water sediment rock others are igneous or metamorphic.

 

Ffs get out and learn something instead of relying on Google :laugh:

 

Type in oldest civilisation it brings up Eridu an ancient Sumerian site from 5000BC. So a whole thousand years older than what your daft book says :laugh:

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I give up Francie,I honestly don't think you can wrap your head around the theory of evolution.

 

But as for 'the missing link',have ever seen an Australian abbo?

If we discovered Australia before the enlightenment they'd have been wiped out,as competitors that weren't very competitive.

 

It stands to reason they'd be out competed and killed off.

No neems you've nothing to answer my question mate, why can't you answer it, an come on mate I know you only like whites, but are you trying to say the Aussie abbos are a missing link.

 

There a human ya madman lol

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Gas can be produced in minutes, crude and coal millions of years.

 

As for your flood theory well there must have been a few floods because all around the world there are layers showing that at one time or another places were underwater several times just look at the grand canyon different types of rock sitting in seperate layers some are water sediment rock others are igneous or metamorphic.

 

Ffs get out and learn something instead of relying on Google :laugh:

 

Type in oldest civilisation it brings up Eridu an ancient Sumerian site from 5000BC. So a whole thousand years older than what your daft book says :laugh:

 

The oldest necropolis with evidence of religious rites having been performed on the dead is over 90,000 years old,which obviously indicates intelligence and creativity.

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