Pardus 1,609 Posted June 18 Report Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, steve66 said: Steffy Bull the boxing promoter on remand for supplying class A , quite shocked really thought he had more sense some good local boxers fighting out of his gym hopefully they'll find another decent promoter to see them right It was a well known secret for years around here, as bent as a dogs back leg. He's up to his eyeballs with all sorts, I can see ten years plus. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,178 Posted June 26 Report Share Posted June 26 (edited) On 12/06/2025 at 18:52, jukel123 said: I stand by my post. The fight was every bit of a circus as any crap Jake Paul puts on. In allowing this fight the British Boxing Board of control were deliberately dodging their responsibilities with regard to boxers' safety Eubank had to massively dehydrate so that he looked like an emaciated rescue dog, whilst Benn looks nothing like he used to. His new muscle bound physique is maybe the result of eating a lot of eggs. Or perhaps he's been eating a lot of wild boar sarnies. These excuses are accepted by the board of control as ' reasonable' explanations for failed drug tests. But a highly ' juiced' boxer can be a danger to himself and his opponent. But more importantly, we now know that making weight, (that is losing weight quickly) is a very dangerous practice which makes brain injuries more likely. The brain is more likely to be 'rocked' when a boxer is dehydrated. It has many other negative effects on the body especially kidney function. It takes days for the body to fully rehydrate.It cannot be done on a shorter timescale. The Benn camp insisted Eubank weigh 170 pounds or less on the morning of the fight. Eubank could not possibly fully rehydrate with such a tight schedule. It's not a coincidence that Eubank had to be hospitalised for two nights after the fight. He was totally and dangerously exhausted . As you say " this fight had disaster written all over it". The Benn team and Hearn would have been responsible if Eubank jnr had been badly injured. It was they who insisted on such a dramatic weight limit. We seem to forget the fates of Gerald Mc Clelland,Michael Watson and Nicky Blackwell too easily. All 3 were badly brain damaged by members of the Benn or Eubank families. The British Boxing Board of control are ignoring the lessons of the past. Their job is to protect boxers, not sanction this type of contest. Let's say Benn had beaten a drained and intentionally weakened Eubank. What would that have proved? That he had beaten a shadow of the full strength Eubank ? Big deal. If Benn is as good as some say he is, and not his dad's tribute act, why would he insist on fighting a weakened opponent? Genuine world class boxers like Sugar Ray Robinson or Roy Jones jnr have dominated at several weights without a punishing clause in their contracts demanding their opponent is not fully fit and strong. Maybe Usyk should demand Dubois lose 2 stone before fighting him? When Eubank jnr fought Nicky Blackwell, Eubank snr told Eubank jnr to stop targeting the head of Blackwell long before the fight was eventually stopped. I clearly remember you commenting on here that Blackwell should have been pulled out of the fight much, much earlier. Blackwell was taken to hospital with a bleed on the brain. Eubank could see that Blackwell was in a bad way and the fight should have been stopped . In fact he was banging on the canvas shouting at the ref to stop the fight. Eubank snr is not stupid. He was dead against the Conor Benn fight for safety reasons and I and many others agree with him 100%. Eubank jnr would be mad to agree to a rematch with the same weight targets. Risk is an enjoyable part of the game for all boxers. Every boxer knows that he could be seriously hurt in a fight. Its part of the buzz. But to fight in severely dehydrated shape is an unacceptable risk which can be avoided. No matter how many crazy millions of pounds are on offer. Making weight has directly led to deaths in other combat sports and its not a coincidence that brain bleeds are rare in heavyweight boxing where making weight is not such an issue. I see Eubank jnr's brother now wants to fight Benn's half brother. What next ? The wives having a scrap? Plus the family dogs? Who knows those contests may sell out as well. For me, the fight was a cynical farce and a shameful day for British boxing. What is the point of the Boxing board of control? They should have told Eddie Hearn and the Benn camp where to stick their weight limit. They are a disgrace. Now hang on a minute.....the post i responded to you barely made any mention of the weight discrepancy,you didnt like the fight itself......well which is it ? There can be no denying that it was a brilliant fight between two well matched fighters....whether it was only close because of the weights as a fan is neither here nor there.....you/we/fans dont care about a fighters well being we never have.......so why do the weights matter to you so much more than any other weight drained fighter ? My point was that your Jake Paul,Mike Tyson,Furys brother,Conor Mcgregor type fiasco's damage the sport from a moral standpoint......low level fighters and has beens earning the highest money in the sport doesnt sit well with fighters.....we all know the physical risks and every fighter who gets between the ropes accepts those risks from the minute they get on the scales.....but what fighters wont accept is a con trick....and those fights were con tricks. Looks like Eubanks hanging up his gloves now and good luck to him....but that fight in my eyes brought a little bit of the " old school " back to boxing....and thats not a bad thing. Edited June 26 by gnasher16 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxo 533 Posted June 27 Report Share Posted June 27 Been listening too the Boxing life stories podcasts by Tris Dixon, some of them are superb. Didn't realise that Billy Graham's brother was Joe who used to put out the old Pit Bull News, car killed him when he was walking his dog. The episode on Robin Reid is very good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,082 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 Good to see wilder back in great form lol and to think some of the thl board of boxing actually thought he was a good boxer lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,503 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 15 minutes ago, Greyman said: Good to see wilder back in great form lol and to think some of the thl board of boxing actually thought he was a good boxer lol boxing is fighting mate men who can’t fight dont win olympic medals and world titles gm lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 He looks like a shot Joe Louis, the right hand has gone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,178 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 And talking of con tricks .....probably the greatest one ever in making a boxing star out of that dope Wilder. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,503 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 2 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: And talking of con tricks .....probably the greatest one ever in making a boxing star out of that dope Wilder. we’ve made them out of a lot worse over the years lol men on here thought david price was going all the way lol anthony joshua was the reincarnation of ali lol amir khan khan the new sugar ray lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shaaark 11,309 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 4 hours ago, Greyman said: Good to see wilder back in great form lol and to think some of the thl board of boxing actually thought he was a good boxer lol Yep, he's still f***ing dreadful to watch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,178 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 50 minutes ago, mC HULL said: we’ve made them out of a lot worse over the years lol men on here thought david price was going all the way lol anthony joshua was the reincarnation of ali lol amir khan khan the new sugar ray lol Apart from David Price who never won a world title the other two were genuine legit world title holders........Wilders entire career was manufactured from day 1,to have got that man to a world title belt is one of the best hussles ive ever seen in boxing 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mC HULL 15,503 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 (edited) 9 minutes ago, gnasher16 said: Apart from David Price who never won a world title the other two were genuine legit world title holders........Wilders entire career was manufactured from day 1,to have got that man to a world title belt is one of the best hussles ive ever seen in boxing better than joshua’s ? martin klitschko 2 fights in 4 year we will never see another fighter with 38 wins all by ko again theres a reason hearn and joshua never went near him wilder was crude but it was heavyweight boxing and he put them over better than anyone single shot power that would make mike tyson look like a kids hitting you Edited June 28 by mC HULL 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pardus 1,609 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 20 minutes ago, mC HULL said: better than joshua’s ? martin klitschko 2 fights in 4 year we will never see another fighter with 38 wins all by ko again theres a reason hearn and joshua never went near him wilder was crude but it was heavyweight boxing and he put them over better than anyone single shot power that would make mike tyson look like a kids hitting you Difference is, Tyson was knocking out the best fighters in the world of that era. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,178 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 46 minutes ago, mC HULL said: better than joshua’s ? martin klitschko 2 fights in 4 year we will never see another fighter with 38 wins all by ko again theres a reason hearn and joshua never went near him wilder was crude but it was heavyweight boxing and he put them over better than anyone single shot power that would make mike tyson look like a kids hitting you Too silly to bother replying to....i thought i was having a conversation with a boxing fan not a besotted schoolboy im out. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,178 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 For me one of the biggest tragedies of the whole Usyk/Joshua/Fury era......is that we never got to see Usyk fight Wilder.....it would of been absolutely hilarious......even thinking about it always puts me in mind of that Norman Wisdom boxing comedy sketch if anyone knows the one im on about 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greyman 31,082 Posted June 28 Report Share Posted June 28 48 minutes ago, mC HULL said: better than joshua’s ? martin klitschko 2 fights in 4 year we will never see another fighter with 38 wins all by ko again theres a reason hearn and joshua never went near him wilder was crude but it was heavyweight boxing and he put them over better than anyone single shot power that would make mike tyson look like a kids hitting you Why did everyone stop falling over after the fury fights because he stepped up from fighting paper bags Parker showed how bad wider and fury were you don’t want to buy some magic beens do you by any chance lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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