Old Deerhound/greyhound Cross.

[shealy 176]

It would be nice to see the first cross one put to a whippet now that sounds like some hound

[buster gonads 862]

It would be nice to see the first cross one put to a whippet now that sounds like some hound

Indeed it would Shealy, always fancy'd a first cross DH/Whippet [i,v never seen one] but a first cross put to a whippet would be usefull to me.

[lurchers 2,984]

 

 

It would be nice to see the first cross one put to a whippet now that sounds like some hound

Indeed it would Shealy, always fancy'd a first cross DH/Whippet [i,v never seen one] but a first cross put to a whippet would be usefull to me.

I had one coming this year but the lad didn't look after the bitch when she welped so he lost the lot.he had 3 pups and didn't want to hand rear and to the vet to pts as well.

[lurchers 2,984]

Any pictures of them lurchers? Sound like they would have been rockets and do you still run this stuff now?

The pics I put on the one with the 2 dogs on the little one is a 1stx d/g put back to a whippet.i will have a look for a pic of her on her own.

[lurchers 2,984]

 

This is her 23tts but at about 7yrs old then.i can under stand why lads didn't breed any of these if the 1stxs were to big as that's why I did it.

[lurchers 2,984]

It would be nice to see the first cross one put to a whippet now that sounds like some hound

That's what I did mate

[low plains drifter 11,213]

I've only ever seen 1 1stx black with white chest which was strange instead of brindle.my mate had it which was a decent dog mate.the ones I bred the bitches made 23tts and dogs 25tts one lad on here was well chuffed with his from when I spoke to him a few years ago.

I used to run a first cross he was out of Thorn the same sire as Axel, he was a black dog with a bit of white on toes, tip of tail, and chest i think, but the bitch out of Axel and the first cross bitch was equally black and white, Omanyra says this is to do with the genes, and only happens when you put deer x grey back to deer x grey

[lurchers 2,984]

 

I've only ever seen 1 1stx black with white chest which was strange instead of brindle.my mate had it which was a decent dog mate.the ones I bred the bitches made 23tts and dogs 25tts one lad on here was well chuffed with his from when I spoke to him a few years ago.

I used to run a first cross he was out of Thorn the same sire as Axel, he was a black dog with a bit of white on toes, tip of tail, and chest i think, but the bitch out of Axel and the first cross bitch was equally black and white, Omanyra says this is to do with the genes, and only happens when you put deer x grey back to deer x grey

My mates had some 2ndxs years ago and they were 24/25tts both brindle I didn't see the rest of the litter but they were game as anything to.

[Omanyra 2,518]

 

I've only ever seen 1 1stx black with white chest which was strange instead of brindle.my mate had it which was a decent dog mate.the ones I bred the bitches made 23tts and dogs 25tts one lad on here was well chuffed with his from when I spoke to him a few years ago.

I used to run a first cross he was out of Thorn the same sire as Axel, he was a black dog with a bit of white on toes, tip of tail, and chest i think, but the bitch out of Axel and the first cross bitch was equally black and white, Omanyra says this is to do with the genes, and only happens when you put deer x grey back to deer x grey

 

 

When you are breeding first cross deerhound x greyhound, as with any F1 you lock away the recesive genes, but, they will manisfest in the second generation, whether you put the dog to another first cross, or any other dog/cross.

The dominant colour in deerhouds isnt as people would expect, grey..it is in fact brindle. The two dominant colours in greyhounds are, brindle and black.

 

All first cross deerhound x greyhounds will therefore be brindle, with occaisional blacks. it is possible to get a fawn, but this is very very rare.

 

We bred a few blacks..and Ive seen a number of blacks from other breeders.

 

Below is a handsome guy with a black first cross, Adder, bred out of a Doxhope deerhound and an Irish bred greyhound off Tom Squires in Co Dublin

I was offered stupid money for this dog, and had to take it..three weeks later the dog was killed by a car :-(

 

Edited December 9, 2015 by Omanyra

[lurchers 2,984]

 

 

 

I've only ever seen 1 1stx black with white chest which was strange instead of brindle.my mate had it which was a decent dog mate.the ones I bred the bitches made 23tts and dogs 25tts one lad on here was well chuffed with his from when I spoke to him a few years ago.

I used to run a first cross he was out of Thorn the same sire as Axel, he was a black dog with a bit of white on toes, tip of tail, and chest i think, but the bitch out of Axel and the first cross bitch was equally black and white, Omanyra says this is to do with the genes, and only happens when you put deer x grey back to deer x grey

When you are breeding first cross deerhound x greyhound, as with any F1 you lock away the recesive genes, but, they will manisfest in the second generation, whether you put the dog to another first cross, or any other dog/cross.

The dominant colour in deerhouds isnt as people would expect, grey..it is in fact brindle. The two dominant colours in greyhounds are, brindle and black.

 

All first cross deerhound x greyhounds will therefore be brindle, with occaisional blacks. it is possible to get a fawn, but this is very very rare.

 

We bred a few blacks..and Ive seen a number of blacks from other breeders.

 

Below is a handsome guy with a black first cross, Adder, bred out of a Doxhope deerhound and an Irish bred greyhound off Tom Squires in Co Dublin

I was offered stupid money for this dog, and had to take it..three weeks later the dog was killed by a car :-(

 

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So that is you is it,I can remember that picture been in a magazine years ago and yes I no what you mean with the 1st and 2ndxs as I didn't dout you as I've seen it myself.my friend has always said if you get offered good money for something take it as it will be dead in a couple of weeks if ya don't.and I think he is right to some degree once you have live stock you will have dead stock that's how it works.very nice dog by the way.

[my hounds 315]

 

This is her 23tts but at about 7yrs old then.i can under stand why lads didn't breed any of these if the 1stxs were to big as that's why I did it.

Just through interest what are/were the first crosses too big for?

[bendrover 556]

Yes mate,he became enamoured with caithness and sutherland during the big rabbit days of tommy mcphee,i am sure he was a plasterer from glasgow originally?I wonder if he is still around?

would like to know that myself . Nice man . But he was in bad health waiting in a heart byepass 20 odd year ago . I got a 3/4 grey saluki of him back then . She was a great dog

[Omanyra 2,518]

 

 

This is her 23tts but at about 7yrs old then.i can under stand why lads didn't breed any of these if the 1stxs were to big as that's why I did it.

Just through interest what are/were the first crosses too big for?

 

 

Thats a cracking question matie..One that I certainly dont have an answer for.

[Phil Lloyd 10,739]

 

It would be nice to see the first cross one put to a whippet now that sounds like some hound

Indeed it would Shealy, always fancy'd a first cross DH/Whippet [i,v never seen one] but a first cross put to a whippet would be usefull to me.

 

 

 

We had several,..back in the day,...the inclusion of whippet blood into the established line of hybrid Deerhound lurchers was made in a vain effort, to save our souls,..

Things were getting emotional,...the Deer Act, with all its many ramifications had just been introduced, so it kinda made sense to curb our enthusiasm,...we ended up with some great wee rabbiting jukels,..but,...our dangerous passion and desire to pursue larger quarry, was never really dampened....

 

Edited December 9, 2015 by Phil Lloyd

[buster gonads 862]

Tidy looking hound Phil, were they too small for Hare.