mick1212 389 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 Great read Marty thanks for the link liked the pistol Pete story and plumbers soko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackmaggie 3,377 Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 one of the best threads on here in a long while hope it stays Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,955 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 If countries like Holland,Luxembourg,Greece etc could do it so could we.......we f****d it pure and simple.....having had some of the great purebred family dogs created over mens life times from around the world what do we have to show for it......................some good lurchers !!!......If thats not a sporting tragedy i dont know what is.id say the opposite actually because lurchers are bred, owned and worked for the love of a dog thats good at its job andable to complete the required task where as the bulldog game is all money. A lurcher does its job and theres no or very little financial gain, can that honestly be said for pures? Your committing the cardinal sin of making comparisons between hunting and sport.............the Apbt is/was a sporting dog bred for sport....theres money in sport theres not in hunting,simple. hunting is a sport but the inly wins and losses are personal satisfaction so to produce a line of dogs knowing you cant gain from them to me proves far more than producing a line for money Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,758 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 For the lads that know lines as I dont have a clue lol, my father was gifted a pup in the mid to late 80s that was supposed to be out of a dog called Neilis to a Patrick bitch or Fitzpatrick not sure which anyway Was these good lines ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,880 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 hunting is a sport but the inly wins and losses are personal satisfaction so to produce a line of dogs knowing you cant gain from them to me proves far more than producing a line for money Sport has rules and has to be fair.......what are the rules of hunting are they fair ?..... If i ask you to deal with my rat problem i couldnt care less if you are personally satisfied just as long as you get rid of my rats..........animals hunt,are they playing sport as well ? I used to compare hunting with sport it wasnt until i saw true hunters that i realised it was a way of life. For the lads that know lines as I dont have a clue lol, my father was gifted a pup in the mid to late 80s that was supposed to be out of a dog called Neilis to a Patrick bitch or Fitzpatrick not sure which anyway Was these good lines ? Sounds like a sibling to Hammer and Scooby i forget the name of the dam now but she was a Tombstone/Bolio bitch if memory serves me right nothing particularly great came out of it though i might be thinking of a different bitch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Well Nelis was a Limey dog and Lost his only match game, they were Alligator dogs. Plumbers Alligator is one of the all time catchweight great dogs, Pat Patrick was one of the top breeders but I believe he lost all his dogs in a raid. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,758 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Cheers lads ! Funny but the names stuck in my head after all these years , nice bitch she was only very small though probablywhy she was given to h I'd expect . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Cheers lads ! Funny but the names stuck in my head after all these years , nice bitch she was only very small though probablywhy she was given to h I'd expect . How small?? Bulldogs on average aren't big dogs... What did she weigh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,758 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Cheers lads ! Funny but the names stuck in my head after all these years , nice bitch she was only very small though probablywhy she was given to h I'd expect .How small?? Bulldogs on average aren't big dogs... What did she weigh? 15 to 16 tts and about 27 pounds roughly if memory serves me correctly . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Cheers lads ! Funny but the names stuck in my head after all these years , nice bitch she was only very small though probablywhy she was given to h I'd expect .How small?? Bulldogs on average aren't big dogs... What did she weigh? 15 to 16 tts and about 27 pounds roughly if memory serves me correctly . Yeah slightly on the smaller side but they can still be dynamite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,880 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Some of the Patrick/Anderson stuff East St was churning out were very small dogs as low as 29/30 lb but i cant recollect many Nelis dogs lower than mid to high 30,s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,758 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Some of the Patrick/Anderson stuff East St was churning out were very small dogs as low as 29/30 lb but i cant recollect many Nelis dogs lower than mid to high 30,s my father thought she probably should've been tapped as a pup but was given to him instead . Edited February 21, 2015 by marshman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 What's your preferences? Smaller dogs or bigger? Personally I prefer the catchweight dogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,880 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 If they have a big heart i couldnt care less about the outside. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
YOKEL 2,332 Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 had a wee banjo/rosita bitch only pushed 26/27ish. Personally like them over 30 and under 40, but like the big man says, if they have big hearts...;-) Yokel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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