frazdog 252 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 nah check it out for yourself dave Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,203 Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 prophesy is nothing more than logic wilf,lol explain the nature of men if you undetstand it! even tho it has fook all to do with prophesy! oxford dictonary definiton of prophesy! Say that (a specified thing) willhappen in the future :Jacques was prophesying abumper harvest [WITH CLAUSE]: the papers prophesied that he would resign after theweekend so explain to me that 75% of bible prophecy has been fufilled an 25% has yet to be fufilled, ignore it if you want it proves that the bible is accurate an truthful an god the father from bible is the one true god, but ignore an slag all you want,doesnt change the truth! I don't think I have slagged anything off my friend, I believe that Christ lived and died, I also believe that he knew what he was talking about. I am not really of the fire and brimstone circle of people, I personally feel they fall all too often into a trap of evil.......that evil being that they look down on and berate other men. Do unto others as you would do unto yourself......which means "don't be hard on people" I have seen too many supposed Christians spend their whole time condemning people instead of loving them.......which don't make much sense to me. That really is the devils work in my book 3 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,203 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? "there is" more hope of a fool than of him. How easy it is to fall into that trap Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 wilf lad the last line wasnt aimed at you it was aimed at atheists lad,me thinking sumone is ignoring the truth ,lad thats not berating,no way an hey you got me all wrong,i speak from the truth of the bible thats it,im far from wise lad,an your [BANNED TEXT] supposed christians,i dont condem people this is just a debate on forum,my mates are non beleivers,an i dont condem them no,no,i keep my mouth shut until its brought up which always happens theae days. they always seem to ask what i think then slag me lol ut just cause i say my opinion an people dont like it thats not condeming, 2 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,203 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Fair enough, as for the truth, I look at it like this.......if someone is an atheist then that is their truth, it's as real to them as our faith is to us. Maybe one day their truth will change, maybe it won't. All you can do is crack on in your own quiet way and along the line someone may say to themselves "hang on! That lad looks at peace with the world, there may be something in that I will have a look" And hey presto, you have helped bring someone to faith. No hollering and hooting, nothing heavy, just doing as Jesus done and living by example. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 well wilf if thats the way you think of truth,thats up to you,i would call that kidding meself jmo Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,499 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 question for bh paulas wilf gnasher, do you beleive in prophesy? Im not as smart as them boys mate.......hang on i,ll google it and let you know Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,499 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) Well, there we have it. Atheists aren't allowed to discuss their beliefs... Folk are free to discuss what they want but as your man Dawkins says " whats the point in discussing a subject i dont believe exists "....sounds perfectly logical to me thats all. Edited November 12, 2014 by gnasher16 Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 14,097 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 Fraz let me ask you..... Do you believe in miracles? Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,203 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 well wilf if thats the way you think of truth,thats up to you,i would call that kidding meself jmo And that's my point in a nutshell mate, you can call it what you like and it won't change how I find my beauty in the world one iota, but there are plenty of people of all faiths cutting about about telling folk that their version of faith is right and laying down the law about what they should and shouldn't do/think/feel........and that's why people view faith so negatively. It's not complicated being a Christian mate, all you got to do is love and accept people for who and what they are and respect their thoughts and feelings. Live your life as well as you can, be kind to your fellow man and leave negativity out of your life......jobs a good un A friend of Gnashers said a brilliant thing, I have not forgotten it.......he said "The Lord said to me, you think your a big man?......I will show you how big you are" Which I think sort of means, be humble because whatever you think you know, there's something at work out there that will knock you into a cocked hat sunshine You seem like a good lad Fraz, go easy on others and go easy on yourself matey Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 yeah i know wilf,im not too bad in person, lol but a good christian lives by an obeys the lord so thats what im doing,i just hate to see people being led astray,an im desperate to help so i prob come of a bit forward! lad sorry but you cant be a goody goody just for the sake of it,if i see evil im there to defend! i know in my heart that bible is 100% truth so il live by that an if i see people in need or being lied to im there! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,203 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 (edited) I don't think anyone has ever described me as a "goody goody" in my life !! Lol......so there you go, you could be the first ! Haha I try not to get wound up about things because all it does is invite negativity in my brain and frankly, life's too short. There's more than one way to skin a cat mate I will just add for the purposes of honesty that I firmly believe that Jesus lived and I think the ol boy had a handle on things, but for me, when it comes to "God" the jury is out......not from the point of his/it's existence but on weather we have got the interpretation of what "god" is all wrong Humans think in terms of a man, but I have a feeling that "god" is nothing like a man........it's something that we couldn't even begin to describe Edited November 12, 2014 by WILF Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,499 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 i just hate to see people being led astray,an im desperate to help so i prob come of a bit forward! lad sorry but you cant be a goody goody just for the sake of it,if i see evil im there to defend! i know in my heart that bible is 100% truth so il live by that an if i see people in need or being lied to im there! I think thats just about the first post you have made Fraz that i really dislike.....most of the time i find your posts interesting and informative.......but to say you are desperate to help and defend people in need etc i find at best patronizing and at worst insulting.......i had a bit of a pop earlier in the thread at the way aethiests seem to have a need to tell us all whats best for our own good and here you are doing the same i dont get it......by all means say your bit and give your opinions but i dont need you there for me any more than i need aethiests there for me folk have to be left to find their own opinions with their own understanding. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
frazdog 252 Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 well gnash didnt mean to insult you an i meant it in the best possible way lad not that people are wrong,i mean the deceivers out there leading people astray from the truth with intent lad mushy yes i beleive in miracles 100% Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted November 12, 2014 Report Share Posted November 12, 2014 This vid had me in tears,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpz8PMcRJSY&feature=player_detailpage im turning to god now ...lol Link to post Share on other sites
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