Brigzy 1,298 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I often read on here, and other sites, people advising lurcher owners not to run their dogs on hard, summer ground; frozen winter ground, flint fields, etc, so as not to ruin their dogs feet. But what about Saluki's, Borzois, etc, that run, (or ran), on extreme ground ? Or American staghounds that run on baked praries or frozen fields ? Have these dogs not got good feet because they are bred for generations from dogs that have run in adverse conditions ? What if lurcher owners here picked dogs with the best feet, and obviously other good traits, and bred them, and ran the pups on these "hard" grounds, and bred from the progeny that had good feet, surely natural selection would see lurchers with good feet come to the fore ? By not running dogs on "bad ground" and breeding from them, would have the opposite affect, and result in dogs with bad feet ? Just a thought. Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I tend to run my dogs on any ground in any conditions and I have paid the price with my old bitch having broken 2 toes, had 2 other foot related injuries and recently a leg injury. Could I have avoided those injuries by being more careful where I ran her? Yes. But what about the amount of game I have caught with her on the days/ground when I probably shouldn't of ran her and she didn't get injured? And if a dog with "bad feet" can catch and kill without injury on bad ground (sometimes) then imagine what the possibilities would be with a dog with "good feet"? Queue... My pup. I will let you know in 12 months. Lol. 1 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I run my dogs on all ground all year around ...,I would be skint if I didn't ...... 3 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I run my dogs on all ground all year around ...,I would be skint if I didn't ...... But he does his own on the spot repair work also.. Poor old Tegan is held together with surgical cotton. I've seen that dog catching bunnies at full pelt on a deralict building site...running across rubble,bits of wire cables and smashed up bricks.. came back half way through day smashed to fekk..he got the suture needle and thread out and repaired her with surgical presicion and skill...Dog was back on the job the very next day and did'nt miss a beat.. Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I run my dogs on all ground all year around ...,I would be skint if I didn't ...... But he does his own on the spot repair work also.. Poor old Tegan is held together with surgical cotton. I've seen that dog catching bunnies at full pelt on a deralict building site...running across rubble,bits of wire cables and smashed up bricks.. came back half way through day smashed to fekk..he got the suture needle and thread out and repaired her with surgical presicion and skill...Dog was back on the job the very next day and did'nt miss a beat.. I have had to do the same with lads that have worked with me lol ....... 3 Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Brigzy, I have only ever run fast dogs but they have all had good feet bar 1, that was a collie/greyhound dog that when grown looked like a pure greyhound, I bought it as a 3/4 cross but it had thrown to the greyhound, I have always run my dogs anywhere that the game is and we were killing foxes by drawing the banks of a stretch of railway,1 of the foxes decided to make a run straight down the track in an effort to avoid the terriers either side of the track, my lurcher straight lined him and took him easily but he broke a toe by not using his head and slowing down a bit on the rough stone and sleepers, I have ran many other dogs on the same track without injury before and since, my lurchers are out all year round as a pest controller and are expected to go wherever the vermin goes, I like your theory on good footed dogs breeding good footed pups and the main reason we should all only ever breed worker to worker that have had 5 or 6 good seasons without serious injury, WM 4 Quote Link to post
Guest vin Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I run my dogs on all ground all year around ...,I would be skint if I didn't ...... But he does his own on the spot repair work also.. Poor old Tegan is held together with surgical cotton. I've seen that dog catching bunnies at full pelt on a deralict building site...running across rubble,bits of wire cables and smashed up bricks.. came back half way through day smashed to fekk..he got the suture needle and thread out and repaired her with surgical presicion and skill...Dog was back on the job the very next day and did'nt miss a beat.. I have had to do the same with lads that have worked with me lol ....... you certainly stitched me up with these bloody ferrets... lol Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I run my dogs on all ground all year around ...,I would be skint if I didn't ...... But he does his own on the spot repair work also.. Poor old Tegan is held together with surgical cotton. I've seen that dog catching bunnies at full pelt on a deralict building site...running across rubble,bits of wire cables and smashed up bricks.. came back half way through day smashed to fekk..he got the suture needle and thread out and repaired her with surgical presicion and skill...Dog was back on the job the very next day and did'nt miss a beat.. I have had to do the same with lads that have worked with me lol ....... you certainly stitched me up with these bloody ferrets... lol Lol ......... 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 28,656 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Lol....I must admit to laughing my tits off when vin called to tell me yesterday about them kits,,, I told him I would have one of them white Jill's socks,,,,,in about 10 week,,,,lol 2 Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I like 99% of others have a choice, if they want to run on shit ground or not. I choose not to, as often you can find decent ground down the road.. So why risk putting your dog out of action for a few weeks.. I know injury can happen even on the best ground but choosing to run on shit ground is just an unecassary added risk.. 1 Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Also is it not just feet to worry about but hard ground is surly harder on the whole skeleton especially with young dogs? 1 Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,247 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) There's running dogs and running dogs. I run my dogs daily but wouldn't lamp my dogs or run them to ferreted rabbits etc on poor ground, there's a big difference. Edited July 10, 2014 by leegreen Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 My dogs will run where the quarry takes them , on all sorts of ground.and foot injuries are not that common 4 Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,247 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 If you think your dogs feet are indestructible, lend it to me for a fortnight and I'll see Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 not indestructable but they all have good feet and I know what I am doing Quote Link to post
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