Taggy123 59 Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 If froch wants to fight ward thats up to him fair enough, but for him to tell the british public that they are losing intrest in a rematch with groves! Who as he asked? Why dont he just say i want a big pay day without taking a battering. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IN SLIPS 134 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Froch not in same league as calzaghe. Joe gave kessler a boxing lesson for 12 rounds at times you could say he was playing with him, froch had a tough time with kessler in both fights. Joe should have shut him up years ago then he would not be delusional thinking he is a legend!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 calzaghe wouldn't take the fight simple as ------ I think if he had it would of been another froch groves scenario but well never know watched jc fight a few times and it was never edge of your seat stuff ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bryson 562 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 what did froch ever have to offer calzaghe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Froch not in same league as calzaghe. Joe gave kessler a boxing lesson for 12 rounds at times you could say he was playing with him, froch had a tough time with kessler in both fights. Joe should have shut him up years ago then he would not be delusional thinking he is a legend!!! Ask 100 fight fans who they would rather watch fight Froch or Calzaghe......90% will say Froch........and thats because he is/was what is called a fighters fighter.........Calzaghe would more than likely of out hustled him and beat him on points 9 out of every 10 times they met we know that......but the super fit hit and hop it merchants will never recieve the same appreciation as the Froch,Benn type of " lets go to war " fighters....they never have and never will. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 tony Sibson was another I`d put in that bracket gnash put in on the line in every fight ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 calzaghe wouldn't take the fight simple as ------ I think if he had it would of been another froch groves scenario but well never know watched jc fight a few times and it was never edge of your seat stuff ... and i watched joe fight and froch was never in the same league as him as much as you try and convince yourself and others he was ..joe was a thoroughbred and froch a well managed cart horse .Theres three fights out there for froch cos theres no money in a ward fight because hes got no chance and it wont sell .the first choice if hes the heart for it is the rematch with Groves a rematch with kessler or step up and fight hopkins in his own back yard like joe did . :laugh: calzhagi wouldnt take the fight ffs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Froch not in same league as calzaghe. Joe gave kessler a boxing lesson for 12 rounds at times you could say he was playing with him, froch had a tough time with kessler in both fights. Joe should have shut him up years ago then he would not be delusional thinking he is a legend!!! Ask 100 fight fans who they would rather watch fight Froch or Calzaghe......90% will say Froch........and thats because he is/was what is called a fighters fighter.........Calzaghe would more than likely of out hustled him and beat him on points 9 out of every 10 times they met we know that......but the super fit hit and hop it merchants will never recieve the same appreciation as the Froch,Benn type of " lets go to war " fighters....they never have and never will. calzhagi would have totally overwhelmed him and stopped him very convincingly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 brookie calzaghe would`nt take the fight otherwise it would of happened so we`ll never know---never said he was in the same league there 2 different types of fighter who fought in 2 different eras so I wouldn't make any comparison be no point -- no money in the ward fight not what hbo are saying the ward fights the biggest fight in terms of money out the 4 you`ve put up ,,,, I post my views I don't try to convince anyone on here I think most of you can make your own minds up ------a well managed cart horse nowt new there I`ve been posting on here for 3 year how well frochs as done with limited boxing skills ---do I think he would of beaton jc no -------- so I don't see your problem maybe you should read more of my posts or read them fully before you start having a dig 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) FFS max where have I said otherwise ---- :D Edited December 13, 2013 by the_stig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Froch wants to thank Calzaghe for not rising to his bait, he'd have made him look silly at a crucial point in his career IMO.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 my point is malt we`ll never know so it seems a bit of a silly comparison ---I saw 5 of jc fights live and at times it was like watching paint dry ..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 my point is malt we`ll never know so it seems a bit of a silly comparison ---I saw 5 of jc fights live and at times it was like watching paint dry .....Aye, I saw some stinkers over the years too mate, not actually there but I paid for them! The way I look at it is Froch's strength seems to be soaking up the hits for the first half of the fight, then coming on strong when his opponent starts tiring. He'd have still been waiting at the final bell for Calzaghe's work rate to let up.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Froch not in same league as calzaghe. Joe gave kessler a boxing lesson for 12 rounds at times you could say he was playing with him, froch had a tough time with kessler in both fights. Joe should have shut him up years ago then he would not be delusional thinking he is a legend!!! Ask 100 fight fans who they would rather watch fight Froch or Calzaghe......90% will say Froch........and thats because he is/was what is called a fighters fighter.........Calzaghe would more than likely of out hustled him and beat him on points 9 out of every 10 times they met we know that......but the super fit hit and hop it merchants will never recieve the same appreciation as the Froch,Benn type of " lets go to war " fighters....they never have and never will. calzhagi would have totally overwhelmed him and stopped him very convincingly I agree he would of overwhelmed him but he didnt have the power to put a dent in Froch.............ive said for a few years now its time to go back to 15 rounds for championship fights and Calzaghe was the perfect example of why............with the advances in todays conditioning a fighter with an engine like Calzaghe can go 12 rounds too easily and win fights against superior fighters on speed/fitness alone......look how much Mayweather has left in the tank at the end of a 12 rounder,he could go another 12 !.......heart is no longer being tested yet it should be a vital part of a fighters make up..........a lot of the qualities a fighter needs never got proven with Calzaghe as his speed and fitness were so high he was never really tested........while that doesnt detract from his achievements it does leave us with more questions than answers...........when fighters retire we usually know every strength and weakness they had yet theres still so many things we dont know about Calzaghe. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brookie 1,193 Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhSxpemf838 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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