beast 1,884 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 read charles st johns book wild sports of the highlands published in the 1870s (i think), you will discover the truth about deerhounds hunting deer. they were used to pull down wounded deer in pairs. st john once paid a ghillie to let him use two deerhounds to grab an uninjured deer, and finish it himself with a knife. although the hounds were happy enough to run the stag, they needed a lot of persuasion to get to grips, and afterwards the ghillie was pretty upset because he thought the dogs would be ruined. a pair of running dogs (the terms deerhound and greyhound were pretty much interchangeable) wasnt considered the norm for pulling deer, if you were too hunt with dogs then a pack was required or read rifle and hound in ceylon, sir samuel bakers classic, he was hunting sambar stags (similar type of deer to a red, and similar size) and he used a mixed pack of lurchers, bloodhounds and anything else useful he could get his hands on. they hunted boar and leopard too. well worth a read, and both books written by people who were out there doing it regularly. Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,055 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 (edited) It was Sir Samuel Baker who tried the pair of deerhounds and the knife.It was at Blair Atholl and the deerhounds belonged to the Duke of Atholl who allowed him to use them without charge. The hounds brought the stag to bay in a river but they went in and locked on once they saw him going in. (There's a free ebook of his here:- http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3231/3231-h/3231-h.htm ) Enjoy!!! Edited July 25, 2013 by Maximus Ferret 1 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,055 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Here's another ebook and on page 371 is the description of the trial with knife:- http://archive.org/stream/wildbeaststheirw00bakeiala#page/370/mode/2up Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 stick one out on the fens and see how long it takes to catch it that would be pointless!!! deer are not designed to run long distances hence they never stroll far from cover.......... where i live red dear are way out in the middle of the fields early morning and night come to think of it so do the roe 1 Quote Link to post
Robie_n 10 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I'm new to this and probably wrong but couldn't a good wolf hound take 1 ? Quote Link to post
lucky 578 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I once took one with a cheetah... 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 I'm new to this and probably wrong but couldn't a good wolf hound take 1 ? I'd imagine. . . only if the deer tripped over the wolf hound and broke it's neck. . . . 2 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 stick one out on the fens and see how long it takes to catch it that would be pointless!!! deer are not designed to run long distances hence they never stroll far from cover.......... How much cover is in the Highlands? Quote Link to post
stewie 3,387 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 stick one out on the fens and see how long it takes to catch it that would be pointless!!! deer are not designed to run long distances hence they never stroll far from cover.......... How much cover is in the Highlands? mountain regions are slighty different to field after field of flat open land Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 stick one out on the fens and see how long it takes to catch it that would be pointless!!! deer are not designed to run long distances hence they never stroll far from cover.......... How much cover is in the Highlands? mountain regions are slighty different to field after field of flat open land Very true. . . . On a slight tangent. . . . something that i've noticed (I think). . . Is you seem to regularly see roe standing out feeding in the first light, right out in the middle of huge fields, yet don;t seem to see fallow in the same way. . . are they just smarter, more flighty? Or is it because they are in bigger groups, they feel more obvious? Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 It was Sir Samuel Baker who tried the pair of deerhounds and the knife.It was at Blair Atholl and the deerhounds belonged to the Duke of Atholl who allowed him to use them without charge. The hounds brought the stag to bay in a river but they went in and locked on once they saw him going in. (There's a free ebook of his here:- http://www.gutenberg.org/files/3231/3231-h/3231-h.htm ) Enjoy!!! i stand corrected, thank you. been a while since i read either book, but you get my point!! Quote Link to post
spiderfly 111 Posted July 25, 2013 Report Share Posted July 25, 2013 Pulled 2 red stags going back awhile with a collie x hound and a bull x hound and to be honest without a big blade and a fast hand I wouldn't be writing this post , wouldnt advice anyone to do this without experience of smaller deer , the collie had the brains in gettin under them but by god the bull hit them head on no reverse and once they lose balance atal the wind will take em down but as long as the dogs keeps the neck and head down it will stay down for a few moments but if it gets its head up your in trouble a friend of mine got his arm broken by a doe , she kicked him while standing up :/ Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,016 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 (edited) stick one out on the fens and see how long it takes to catch it that would be pointless!!! deer are not designed to run long distances hence they never stroll far from cover.......... How much cover is in the Highlands? mountain regions are slighty different to field after field of flat open land Very true. . . . On a slight tangent. . . . something that i've noticed (I think). . . Is you seem to regularly see roe standing out feeding in the first light, right out in the middle of huge fields, yet don;t seem to see fallow in the same way. . . are they just smarter, more flighty? Or is it because they are in bigger groups, they feel more obvious? stick one out on the fens and see how long it takes to catch it that would be pointless!!! deer are not designed to run long distances hence they never stroll far from cover.......... How much cover is in the Highlands? mountain regions are slighty different to field after field of flat open land Very true. . . . On a slight tangent. . . . something that i've noticed (I think). . . Is you seem to regularly see roe standing out feeding in the first light, right out in the middle of huge fields, yet don;t seem to see fallow in the same way. . . are they just smarter, more flighty? Or is it because they are in bigger groups, they feel more obvious? you do get them mate ,one of my fav sights Edited July 26, 2013 by DEERMAN Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 I once took one with a cheetah...mine do lions tigers and bears regular lol Quote Link to post
goldfish 185 Posted July 26, 2013 Report Share Posted July 26, 2013 Pulled 2 red stags going back awhile with a collie x hound and a bull x hound and to be honest without a big blade and a fast hand I wouldn't be writing this post , wouldnt advice anyone to do this without experience of smaller deer , the collie had the brains in gettin under them but by god the bull hit them head on no reverse and once they lose balance atal the wind will take em down but as long as the dogs keeps the neck and head down it will stay down for a few moments but if it gets its head up your in trouble a friend of mine got his arm broken by a doe , she kicked him while standing up :/ liar Quote Link to post
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