gonetoearth 5,144 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) The Olympic gold has not ment a lot gnash for a while the london games gave it a boost the history of the past greats kept the romance of it alive but Think the likes of ordinary has soured even that , your spot on with haye he is a differant league to. Fury That might upset the fury massive but time will tell Edited June 9, 2013 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,664 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 i dont really rate haye or fury, i reckon fury got a suspect jaw and who has haye really beat??? the heavyweight division is finished its all about welters, middleweights now, thats were the exciting fights are happening. i really dont no what happened to heavyweight division but it has never been as bad as this. Take Mike Tyson out of the frame........and the mid to late ,s was much worse than todays heavyweight scene...........thats what people seem to conveniently forget about that era........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,664 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 The Olympic gold has not ment a lot gnash for a while the london games gave it a boost the history of the past greats kept the romance of it alive but Think the likes of ordinary has soured even that , your spot on with haye he is a differant league to. Fury That might upset the fury massive but time will tell I just find it almost degrading to the pro game and to seasoned pro fighters that someone like that kid Ogogo can get an Olympic bronze......then immediately sign a contract under one of the biggest promotional banners in world sport and think that coming third in an amateur boxing competition carries weight of some sort !..............The fact an Olympian gets immediate tv coverage and exposure must be as hurtful to the amateur game as it is to the pros as how many Olympians are going to want to stay amateur after they scoop up a medal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 The Olympic gold has not ment a lot gnash for a while the london games gave it a boost the history of the past greats kept the romance of it alive but Think the likes of ordinary has soured even that , your spot on with haye he is a differant league to. Fury That might upset the fury massive but time will tell I just find it almost degrading to the pro game and to seasoned pro fighters that someone like that kid Ogogo can get an Olympic bronze......then immediately sign a contract under one of the biggest promotional banners in world sport and think that coming third in an amateur boxing competition carries weight of some sort !..............The fact an Olympian gets immediate tv coverage and exposure must be as hurtful to the amateur game as it is to the pros as how many Olympians are going to want to stay amateur after they scoop up a medal. . Thats show bis gnash Promo greed just sky need to fill sports slots Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Desmond 480 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 what do you lads make of degale ---- A wanker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,664 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 . Thats show bis gnash Promo greed just sky need to fill sports slots And we sit here scratching our canisters wondering why our big rising stars like Audley Harrison fall at the first fence Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stewie 3,387 Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 i dont really rate haye or fury, i reckon fury got a suspect jaw and who has haye really beat??? the heavyweight division is finished its all about welters, middleweights now, thats were the exciting fights are happening. i really dont no what happened to heavyweight division but it has never been as bad as this. Take Mike Tyson out of the frame........and the mid to late ,s was much worse than todays heavyweight scene...........thats what people seem to conveniently forget about that era........ add tyson and you got what todays heavyweight division is missing........... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
satan80 358 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 The Olympic gold has not ment a lot gnash for a while the london games gave it a boost the history of the past greats kept the romance of it alive but Think the likes of ordinary has soured even that , your spot on with haye he is a differant league to. Fury That might upset the fury massive but time will tell I just find it almost degrading to the pro game and to seasoned pro fighters that someone like that kid Ogogo can get an Olympic bronze......then immediately sign a contract under one of the biggest promotional banners in world sport and think that coming third in an amateur boxing competition carries weight of some sort !..............The fact an Olympian gets immediate tv coverage and exposure must be as hurtful to the amateur game as it is to the pros as how many Olympians are going to want to stay amateur after they scoop up a medal. Agreed. Ogogo didn't even look good at the Olympics, got bullied physically and had zero idea when he was put under pressure. That said, he's a good looking kid, speaks very well and has a personality, which is I'm sure why Golden Boy are seeing the $ signs. The gulf between the amateur and pro game has never been bigger imo, although getting rid of head guards and computer scoring should help in the future Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Haye is probably the best finisher in the division at the moment............Fury has been down and got back up to take charge and fair do,s for that............but Haye is a different level if he gets him down he,ll finish him......and at some point he will connect flush that you can be sure of. The Eubank kid i dont rate him at all..........Degale i dont think will ever reach world level...................The time will come when an Olympic medal wont hold as much weight in the pros as it currently seems to ! who as haye finished in the division that is anygood? plus if haye gets 17/18 stone on his chin he will go, young fury wants it more, haye wants big dollar thats all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Twist 26 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Haye is probably the best finisher in the division at the moment............Fury has been down and got back up to take charge and fair do,s for that............but Haye is a different level if he gets him down he,ll finish him......and at some point he will connect flush that you can be sure of. The Eubank kid i dont rate him at all..........Degale i dont think will ever reach world level...................The time will come when an Olympic medal wont hold as much weight in the pros as it currently seems to ! who as haye finished in the division that is anygood? plus if haye gets 17/18 stone on his chin he will go, young fury wants it more, haye wants big dollar thats all. Same could be asked about fury who has he fought exept an over the hill Kevin Johnson Edited June 10, 2013 by Twist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Haye is probably the best finisher in the division at the moment............Fury has been down and got back up to take charge and fair do,s for that............but Haye is a different level if he gets him down he,ll finish him......and at some point he will connect flush that you can be sure of. The Eubank kid i dont rate him at all..........Degale i dont think will ever reach world level...................The time will come when an Olympic medal wont hold as much weight in the pros as it currently seems to ! who as haye finished in the division that is anygood? plus if haye gets 17/18 stone on his chin he will go, young fury wants it more, haye wants big dollar thats all. Same could be asked about fury who has he fought exept an over the hill Kevin Johnson fury is on the way up unbeaten as a heavyweight, if haye was such a great heavyweight he would of prob beat klitchko, instead we ad 1 of the worst fights ive seen, that was all down to haye, time will tell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) The Olympic gold has not ment a lot gnash for a while the london games gave it a boost the history of the past greats kept the romance of it alive but Think the likes of ordinary has soured even that , your spot on with haye he is a differant league to. Fury That might upset the fury massive but time will tell I just find it almost degrading to the pro game and to seasoned pro fighters that someone like that kid Ogogo can get an Olympic bronze......then immediately sign a contract under one of the biggest promotional banners in world sport and think that coming third in an amateur boxing competition carries weight of some sort !..............The fact an Olympian gets immediate tv coverage and exposure must be as hurtful to the amateur game as it is to the pros as how many Olympians are going to want to stay amateur after they scoop up a Agreed. Ogogo didn't even look good at the Olympics, got bullied physically and had zero idea when he was put under pressure. That said, he's a good looking kid, speaks very well and has a personality, which is I'm sure why Golden Boy are seeing the $ signs. The gulf between the amateur and pro game has never been bigger imo, although getting rid of head guards and computer scoring should help in the future . Dont try and compare the two the are seprate sports , head protection in my opinion should be used at junior level , and domestic club comps. But at international level. None should be worn But that will never happen as the international aba commitee can not agree on any thing Edited June 10, 2013 by gonetoearth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,664 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Haye is probably the best finisher in the division at the moment............Fury has been down and got back up to take charge and fair do,s for that............but Haye is a different level if he gets him down he,ll finish him......and at some point he will connect flush that you can be sure of. The Eubank kid i dont rate him at all..........Degale i dont think will ever reach world level...................The time will come when an Olympic medal wont hold as much weight in the pros as it currently seems to ! who as haye finished in the division that is anygood? plus if haye gets 17/18 stone on his chin he will go, young fury wants it more, haye wants big dollar thats all. Of the 5 fights Haye has won at Heavyweight......4 of them were won by stoppage......2 of them in world title fights.....................to compare Hayes list of opponents to Furys is just being silly.....4 of Hayes last 5 fights were for world titles............Furys last 5 fights have been against over 35 year olds !! The recent common opponent is Derek Chisora...........Fury had a laboured points win against an out of shape Chisora.....Haye destroyed a peak Chisora in 5 rounds...................Why does Fury want it more ? Because he says so ?............He also says 2 more fights and he will be a " super legend " .........Judge a fighter by what he does not by what he says he can do. Edited June 10, 2013 by gnasher16 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWSBOY 306 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 c'mon, your havin a laff, hayes fights at heavyweight have been a joke, he ran for 12 rounds in the fight with the giant, didnt deserve to win, an over the hill john ruiz , another black guy, cant remember his name, he was shot, the klitchko farce, audley and a decent win over chisora. u lot on here said he would beat the so called robot klitchko, cos u fell for the hype. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salukixgrey 779 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 i aint much good myself but i honestly think fury will get found out like the plumber did lol, and haye is a cruiser weight not a heavy, when up against a bigger man he runs and looks for one punch. the pair are useless........ imagine what ali would have done to them. the pair aint really fought no one really and i honestly think fury got a bad jaw and will get kod, wether it will be haye is another matter fury allways talks a good fight but he was ducking PRICE FACT. and he got knocked out by another no one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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