Your Views On The Edl ?

[gnasher16 29,662]

As much as the EDL,s efforts to " get out there " are to be admired..........i cant help thinking the majority of people attending these marches are the impressionable everyday folk who just want to be part of something...........whats the next group going to be called.............we had the National Front in our day......the BNP later on..........now we,ve got the EDL.............my guess would be the majority of people supporting these groups and going on marches have no real anger and venom at what they are protesting about they just want to be " part of something ".........most seem to have too many smiles on their faces for my liking they actually look like they are having fun.................they think carrying a St George,s flag and singing terrace chants makes them hardcore patriots..........i dont know the answer but i do believe in the saying " Better to go into battle with 5 lions than 500 sheep ".

[dytkos 17,536]

Problem is, if UKIP get loads of seats in the next election, where are they going to get enough "decent" politicians to carry them on to the next stage? Although I agree in principle with their aims, they would be swamped by all the spin from the "major" parties and would fizzle out before they had a chance to make a difference

Cheers, D.

[Guest ragumup]

So how would you make the distinction between between terrorist and none terrorist Muslim?.You can interview them all you want,but ive never met a muslim who speaks the truth.Ive lived amongst Muslims on and off since the early 70s and not one would i ever ever trust.Im an honest guy and take everyone at face value,that way i can always tell the truth without predudice.

We need a goverment who can act asap,instead of a bunch of ignorant,lying,selfish,fuckwitted b*****ds!.I dread to think where the next two years are gonna take us.

its going to take us here....

 

[Westy76 546]

As much as the EDL,s efforts to " get out there " are to be admired..........i cant help thinking the majority of people attending these marches are the impressionable everyday folk who just want to be part of something...........whats the next group going to be called.............we had the National Front in our day......the BNP later on..........now we,ve got the EDL.............my guess would be the majority of people supporting these groups and going on marches have no real anger and venom at what they are protesting about they just want to be " part of something ".........most seem to have too many smiles on their faces for my liking they actually look like they are having fun.................they think carrying a St George,s flag and singing terrace chants makes them hardcore patriots..........i dont know the answer but i do believe in the saying " Better to go into battle with 5 lions than 500 sheep ".

Totally agree

[paulus 26]

just on GMTV apparently (according to a bloke from some Muslim group or other) its MI5`s fault that one of the killers was tipped over the edge. by harassing him Then on the BBC news, Terrorist in the jail at camp Bastion are being held illegally forgive me, but.....No wonder were in a mess Were even paying them to spread there hate. http://www.standard.co.uk/news/mayor-gives-30000-of-taxpayers-money-to-muslim-group-led-by-extremist-6938333.html i really do despair

[neems 2,406]

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we followed true to that approach then Jamie Bulgers killers are 10 year olds. So lets deport all 10 year olds. Ian Huntley was a caretaker, lets deport all caretakers.

That's a terrible analogy mate.

Ian Huntley didn't kill because he was a caretaker. He killed because he was a nut case.

Same for all other one of murderers/rapists/peadophiles etc.

These are killing BECAUSE THEY ARE MUSLIM!!!

I'm not saying all Muslims are terrorists. But all terrorists are Muslim.

So f**k off all the Muslims. Problem solved.

All terrorist are Muslim ? You sure about that

 

There's a hole load of white catholic terrorists,, just across the water,,,

 

And a good few different white factions in Europe ,,, mind there not bombing us,, just there own country's ,,, eta ,, barder minoff ,,,,, and there was some wired welsh feckers back in the 80s that wanted independance ,,lol

We aren't talking about them mate. We are talking about these Muslim extremists.

 

There are 2 sides. For them and against them. No middle ground.

 

I fell out with my brother in law yesterday for defending these scum. How any English man can defend these is beyond me. How anyone can say they shouldn't all be deported worries me.

I guess the correct analogy then would be, durring 'the troubles' not all Irish were IRA but all IRA were Irish........... therefore all Irish should have been "f****d off" from British soil?

Maybe you are right. Lets leave them all here and do nothing then.

 

Drop me a pm when they are in charge of the country

 

 

Haha, okay, our options as you see it are, f**k them all off or they will take over the country? No middle ground at all.

 

Anyway, should we have f****d off all the Irish from British soil in the 80's?

 

 

Irish are white European,the only real difference between us and them is culture (even that is minimal) after one generation they have completely assimilated.

 

 

The vast majority of Muslims don't even attempt to assimilate,in fact the 2nd and 3rd generations are more radical in it's beliefs than the 1st.

 

there's no comparison.

 

if white european people are going to continue living in Europe we need to be homogeneous.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Realistically? I'd focus on threats to British security, rather than religion. Just because 99% of those threats originate from extremist Muslims simply means that Islam is the demographic where security operations are focussed. Simply booting out all Muslims would not be accepted and unrealistic............ you assume naively all Muslims are first generation immigrants, which of course they are not. So where exactly do we f**k them off to? And what happens when that state says, "your rubbish, deal with it"?

 

So what would I do if in such a position of power?............... Give the Security Services with the assistance of the Military and specialist terrorism units the freedom to act ruthlessly! Surgically cut this cancer out of society with no bending the knee to liberal politicians!

 

Any British national found to actively be distributing or participating in terrorist propaganda would be tried for treason, not some new anti terrorism law. Any Immigrant found to be doing the same will be tried for terrorism and then extradited. Reinstate the maximum penalty for Treason and Terrorism as the death penalty.

 

Control immigration properly, in line with the australians. Immigrants are accepted for the good of the country, not for their own benefit.

 

Countries found to be producing terrorists would be expected to deal with them, otherwise they are a threat to this nations security and our military will deal with it for them. No applogies and no bull shit excuses that we are doing it for the poor oppressed people of that nation.

 

This would solve the problem and the people of the Islamic faith that are peacefull, integrated and love Britain at heart can remain. Stricter immigration laws would prevent immigrant populations growing any further.

 

More sensible than "f**k them all off"?

The death penalty is the ultimate reward for them!!!

 

They would love it every time they committed an offence against us they were hanged in public. It would be the ultimate way to go.

 

The only thing that your "proposal" would do is stop the public marches and small scale attacks.

 

They would start making larger scale attacks. Bomb a tube station and kill 50 innocent English men. Then happily be killed for it.

 

Sorry but I reiterate - f**k them all off. ALL OF THEM.

 

Wether legally deporting them would work I don't know. But we can drive them out. Make them feel unwelcome. US. ME and YOU. Not the government.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Also you say "the people of the Islamic faith that are peaceful can remain".

 

Have you not watched one documentary on these? You need to do some research mate.

 

They WILL take over. Fact. Wether extremist or not. Do you want your grand kids Muslim? Cuz I sure as f**k don't.

 

Average white British male - 1.8 children.

 

Average Muslim male - 6.2 children.

 

You do the maths.

 

Atb. Gaz.

[Born Hunter 17,638]

So how would you make the distinction between between terrorist and none terrorist Muslim?.You can interview them all you want,but ive never met a muslim who speaks the truth.Ive lived amongst Muslims on and off since the early 70s and not one would i ever ever trust.Im an honest guy and take everyone at face value,that way i can always tell the truth without predudice.

We need a goverment who can act asap,instead of a bunch of ignorant,lying,selfish,fuckwitted b*****ds!.I dread to think where the next two years are gonna take us.

 

 

Intelligence!

MI5, GCHQ, SRR, Special Branch.

[Born Hunter 17,638]

 

The death penalty is the ultimate reward for them!!!

 

They would love it every time they committed an offence against us they were hanged in public. It would be the ultimate way to go.

 

The only thing that your "proposal" would do is stop the public marches and small scale attacks.

 

They would start making larger scale attacks. Bomb a tube station and kill 50 innocent English men. Then happily be killed for it.

 

Sorry but I reiterate - f**k them all off. ALL OF THEM.

 

Wether legally deporting them would work I don't know. But we can drive them out. Make them feel unwelcome. US. ME and YOU. Not the government.

 

 

So what if they want to die from hanging? Gets rid of the convicted Traitors and terrorists! A large portion of these extremist muslims don't want to die anyway, just like you and me. The job is to eliminate the threat, whether or not they feel humiliated I care not. I couldn't give a shite if death is what they want! Excellent, they won't mind the bullet then will they?

 

So you accept that my 'proposal' would stop the rogues and marches............... why wouldn't it stop the organised terrorism? Seeing as that's pretty much the specialty of our security services and what they have been doing since 7/7! How many terror plots have they foiled since? The rogues are the worry now as they are spontaneous and hard to monitor, the big terror threats are already dealt with quite well.

 

There are a few people in history that have had the stomach to properly carry out what you suggest and all of them have been tried for crimes against humanity! You want to f**k them all off, and without somewhere to f**k them all off to we're left with Hitler's solution or your much simpler "we'll make them feel unwelcome"................ That'll do nothing but breed future terrorist threats and an exponential rate! They won't all f**k off, the simple ones might but the rest will just pull togther and get angry and eventually go bang.

[Lab 10,979]

 

 

The death penalty is the ultimate reward for them!!!

 

They would love it every time they committed an offence against us they were hanged in public. It would be the ultimate way to go.

 

The only thing that your "proposal" would do is stop the public marches and small scale attacks.

 

They would start making larger scale attacks. Bomb a tube station and kill 50 innocent English men. Then happily be killed for it.

 

Sorry but I reiterate - f**k them all off. ALL OF THEM.

 

Wether legally deporting them would work I don't know. But we can drive them out. Make them feel unwelcome. US. ME and YOU. Not the government.

 

 

So what if they want to die from hanging? Gets rid of the convicted Traitors and terrorists! A large portion of these extremist muslims don't want to die anyway, just like you and me. The job is to eliminate the threat, whether or not they feel humiliated I care not. I couldn't give a shite if death is what they want! Excellent, they won't mind the bullet then will they?

 

So you accept that my 'proposal' would stop the rogues and marches............... why wouldn't it stop the organised terrorism? Seeing as that's pretty much the specialty of our security services and what they have been doing since 7/7! How many terror plots have they foiled since? The rogues are the worry now as they are spontaneous and hard to monitor, the big terror threats are already dealt with quite well.

 

There are a few people in history that have had the stomach to properly carry out what you suggest and all of them have been tried for crimes against humanity! You want to f**k them all off, and without somewhere to f**k them all off to we're left with Hitler's solution or your much simpler "we'll make them feel unwelcome"................ That'll do nothing but breed future terrorist threats and an exponential rate! They won't all f**k off, the simple ones might but the rest will just pull togther and get angry and eventually go bang.

 

............Too true mate. I cant get my head round the "thats what they want" when referring them to dying for there so called cause! Well thats ok then...round up all these wannabee terrorists and ask them if they fancy going to visit 40 virgins..I have a funny feeling the vast majority would be asking if there was another option.. "AYE, f***ing BEAT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[paulus 26]

 

So how would you make the distinction between between terrorist and none terrorist Muslim?.You can interview them all you want,but ive never met a muslim who speaks the truth.Ive lived amongst Muslims on and off since the early 70s and not one would i ever ever trust.Im an honest guy and take everyone at face value,that way i can always tell the truth without predudice.

We need a goverment who can act asap,instead of a bunch of ignorant,lying,selfish,fuckwitted b*****ds!.I dread to think where the next two years are gonna take us.

 

 

Put the lot of them on a lie detector test lol

 

You would get a good idea who is peaceful and which ones are extreem.

 

line them all up on the jez kyle show

[gonetoearth 5,144]

As much as the EDL,s efforts to " get out there " are to be admired..........i cant help thinking the majority of people attending these marches are the impressionable everyday folk who just want to be part of something...........whats the next group going to be called.............we had the National Front in our day......the BNP later on..........now we,ve got the EDL.............my guess would be the majority of people supporting these groups and going on marches have no real anger and venom at what they are protesting about they just want to be " part of something ".........most seem to have too many smiles on their faces for my liking they actually look like they are having fun.................they think carrying a St George,s flag and singing terrace chants makes them hardcore patriots..........i dont know the answer but i do believe in the saying " Better to go into battle with 5 lions than 500 sheep ".

well put gnash. Its been a. Very emotive l 5. Days. The murder of. The soldier has brought to the fore many opinions some Comments from people who would never. Be assosiated with the edl or any other political group some of the comments are construtive some just rants i my self have been swept away and used terminology i would never use. The horror that was brought to are tv screens activated hatred , i only hope. The powers that be take note and relise that not only the perpertratoirs can be radicalised but young white men could go the same way in reaction to recent events . Edited May 29, 2013 by gonetoearth

[twobob 1,458]

Realistically? I'd focus on threats to British security, rather than religion. Just because 99% of those threats originate from extremist Muslims simply means that Islam is the demographic where security operations are focussed. Simply booting out all Muslims would not be accepted and unrealistic............ you assume naively all Muslims are first generation immigrants, which of course they are not. So where exactly do we f**k them off to? And what happens when that state says, "your rubbish, deal with it"?

 

So what would I do if in such a position of power?............... Give the Security Services with the assistance of the Military and specialist terrorism units the freedom to act ruthlessly! Surgically cut this cancer out of society with no bending the knee to liberal politicians!

 

Any British national found to actively be distributing or participating in terrorist propaganda would be tried for treason, not some new anti terrorism law. Any Immigrant found to be doing the same will be tried for terrorism and then extradited. Reinstate the maximum penalty for Treason and Terrorism as the death penalty.

 

Control immigration properly, in line with the australians. Immigrants are accepted for the good of the country, not for their own benefit.

 

Countries found to be producing terrorists would be expected to deal with them, otherwise they are a threat to this nations security and our military will deal with it for them. No applogies and no bull shit excuses that we are doing it for the poor oppressed people of that nation.

 

This would solve the problem and the people of the Islamic faith that are peacefull, integrated and love Britain at heart can remain. Stricter immigration laws would prevent immigrant populations growing any further.

 

More sensible than "f**k them all off"?

you think so if your going to extradite them why the death penalty for treason and terrorism or do you mean send them back dead

[Born Hunter 17,638]

 

Realistically? I'd focus on threats to British security, rather than religion. Just because 99% of those threats originate from extremist Muslims simply means that Islam is the demographic where security operations are focussed. Simply booting out all Muslims would not be accepted and unrealistic............ you assume naively all Muslims are first generation immigrants, which of course they are not. So where exactly do we f**k them off to? And what happens when that state says, "your rubbish, deal with it"?

 

So what would I do if in such a position of power?............... Give the Security Services with the assistance of the Military and specialist terrorism units the freedom to act ruthlessly! Surgically cut this cancer out of society with no bending the knee to liberal politicians!

 

Any British national found to actively be distributing or participating in terrorist propaganda would be tried for treason, not some new anti terrorism law. Any Immigrant found to be doing the same will be tried for terrorism and then extradited. Reinstate the maximum penalty for Treason and Terrorism as the death penalty.

 

Control immigration properly, in line with the australians. Immigrants are accepted for the good of the country, not for their own benefit.

 

Countries found to be producing terrorists would be expected to deal with them, otherwise they are a threat to this nations security and our military will deal with it for them. No applogies and no bull shit excuses that we are doing it for the poor oppressed people of that nation.

 

This would solve the problem and the people of the Islamic faith that are peacefull, integrated and love Britain at heart can remain. Stricter immigration laws would prevent immigrant populations growing any further.

 

More sensible than "f**k them all off"?

you think so if your going to extradite them why the death penalty for treason and terrorism or do you mean send them back dead

 

 

Max penalty would be the death penalty. Extradition though would be compulsary for immigrants found guilty if not executed. So, you're found with a Jihadist DVD, you're gone! You're found making bombs, you're shot. I don't think the UN would sit by idly while we execute people for simply being in posetion of a DVD but we sure as hell don't have to keep them or let them run free. The criminal justice system would decide the finer details. Hard justice, but fair!

 

Tbh, just get rid of them! If the death penalty was considered a no go then simply extradite Terrorists and life imprison Traitors.