Blackbriar 8,568 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I've followed Marky B's thread "Rough Fight" - terrific fight if anyone hasn't watched it ! - and it got me wondering. I know Tyson Fury is doing well at the moment, and a few fighters have called themselves "Gypsy" this, that or the other over the years. But, since fighting/boxing is an important part of gypsy/traveller culture and some are clearly very good, why don't we see more of these fighters higher up and more successful in the professional ranks ? i know there is probably a good few guys on here who know a bit about this, so I'd be interested to know what anyone thinks. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BOLSTER 808 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Its easier & faster ''Fleecing old pensioners'' .............that's why. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
engraver 44 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 If someone is good there good doesn't matter where they come from and how they were brought up. Just like any other sport. I suppose many dont make it in the professional ring because the dont have the discipline to train professionally and prepared to give up their social lives and change their diet. Its all about devotion, fury himself has only just started training "properly" and eating "properly" he has only winged it up to recently. Natural talent only carries you so far then its about devotion to your sport and training that carries you on to be a champ I suppose, I never heard of Joe calzaghe boozing at weekends. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pip1968 2,490 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 they probably dont stay in an area long enough to be fully commited to a gym Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 9,579 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Think the gypsy community we're more segregated in the past,and maybe kept their own style of bare knuckle fighting amongst their own kind,very brutal way of fighting,no 1 minute rest after every 3 minutes of fighting,even after being knocked out it was up to the fighter if he wanted to continue or not,that shows some serious gameness,imagine wanting to fight as soon as you come round from a k o,remember the gypsy johnny frankham held a pro world title for a short while Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 9,579 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 If someone is good there good doesn't matter where they come from and how they were brought up. Just like any other sport. I suppose many dont make it in the professional ring because the dont have the discipline to train professionally and prepared to give up their social lives and change their diet. Its all about devotion, fury himself has only just started training "properly" and eating "properly" he has only winged it up to recently. Natural talent only carries you so far then its about devotion to your sport and training that carries you on to be a champ I suppose, I never heard of Joe calzaghe boozing at weekends. I remember joe calzaghe once saying,he only ever sparred using light contact,why get hit hard in the gym you get enough of that in the fight,considering how successful his career was,who can argue with him ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 If someone is good there good doesn't matter where they come from and how they were brought up. Just like any other sport. I suppose many dont make it in the professional ring because the dont have the discipline to train professionally and prepared to give up their social lives and change their diet. Its all about devotion, fury himself has only just started training "properly" and eating "properly" he has only winged it up to recently. Natural talent only carries you so far then its about devotion to your sport and training that carries you on to be a champ I suppose, I never heard of Joe calzaghe boozing at weekends. I remember joe calzaghe once saying,he only ever sparred using light contact,why get hit hard in the gym you get enough of that in the fight,considering how successful his career was,who can argue with him ? I remember a friends wife saying he was too pretty to box, maybe that's why Quote Link to post Share on other sites
low plains drifter 9,579 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 If someone is good there good doesn't matter where they come from and how they were brought up. Just like any other sport. I suppose many dont make it in the professional ring because the dont have the discipline to train professionally and prepared to give up their social lives and change their diet. Its all about devotion, fury himself has only just started training "properly" and eating "properly" he has only winged it up to recently. Natural talent only carries you so far then its about devotion to your sport and training that carries you on to be a champ I suppose, I never heard of Joe calzaghe boozing at weekends. I remember joe calzaghe once saying,he only ever sparred using light contact,why get hit hard in the gym you get enough of that in the fight,considering how successful his career was,who can argue with him ? I remember a friends wife saying he was too pretty to box, maybe that's why Did'nt need to box with all his 30 shot combos lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest thebigdog Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 it comes down to desire and discipline me thinks. how many settled lads were good boxers/footballers or whatever, good enough to make it pro, then pissed it all away. girls, beer, drugs, partying, or just the everyday shite that life can throw at you, all can keep your dreams, just that, dreams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Banter 1,751 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 wasnt tony simson a traveller 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,756 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Most young travellers children are taken to amateur gyms and there's loads of decent amateur travellers . Although not many make it to the pro ranks ! From what I've seen most seem to stop in there teens . I think leading the spartan lifestyle of a pro fighter comes hard to most travelling men . There's a decent young pro called billy joe Saunders worth watching out for. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,568 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 To be honest Max, I'm glad it's not a question of family honour that I have to fight any bloke that calls me out whenever he feels like it, but on the whole I think I'd agree with you. Just as a sideline here, I used to go to the same gym as Fidel Castro Smith (Slugger O'Toole), who I think lost a big fight to Henry Wharton in (about) '92/'93. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goldfinch2007 2,331 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 because most of us arent worth 2p 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Halfinch 51 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Billy Joe Saunders is fighting Matthew Hall at the York Hall tonight, Can't see Billy losing that one. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jo54 255 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 well iam fighting stabba at edrd show who ever wont to wotch it wont go long Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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