Day Walkers

[goldfinch2007 2,331]

snow bashers

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

 

 

if i had a top class bitch and was going to breed off it.id give a grand.you dont take a race horse to a donkey

 

You do if you want a faster donkey!

donkeys dont catch big rabbits

They don't get crabbed or bummed up either

[gorger 977]

That's the secret goldfinch a dog that runs consistent over its life doing 3,s or 4 regulary you sure got a hell of a animal dont think anyone realises how hard it is to find one.

[goldfinch2007 2,331]

ive never had 1 but i can dream gorger

[loftyslads 205]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know what I'm sick of reading on here, day walkers bragging about their dogs and when it comes to the crunch, don't live up to the hype. It's f***ing easy to bum up a dog on here, get couple of your mates to agree or better still, have a few accounts yourself to verify the claims.

Take the Lucas and bulldozer match. Both dogs before the match killing 5/5, a 4,5,6 minute course the norm. That's half an hour of flat out running. Some dogs to do that. Plenty to back up the claims 'with me own eyes'. Best 2 dogs on the net if not the isles if you believe the hype. Finally we all get a chance to hear what these mighty hare slayers can do on the most worshipped ground....... 2 f***ing hares each. And at that one is a kick up, bravo, give me a pup pleeeeease.

Then the self claimed winner of the draw(yes the kick up merchant) goes on to race in the coveted forley cup. This cup has be heralded as the ultimate test for all lurchers, your dogs some dog to win this...... Only the best have done it..... Result? 3/3? 4/4? 5/5? No, 2 f***ing hares and one was already f***ing run!!!!

Now I'm only using these 2 dogs as examples of the bullshit that gets spewed on here on a daily bases. Iceman had a puppy competition, I glanced at it occasionally. Think it ran from August to May. These dogs were the offspring of super dogs that folk could recite the ancestory away back to roman times. Most of what I read the dogs were catching f**k all. Pups from legendary dogs, f**k all???? So I ask you, why the f**k do these dogs get bummed up to f**k but when it's time to show your hand, the owners are left standing with their pants down!!! Is it because its all just hype to sell pups? Surely not...

 

I can sympathise with your annoyance Baw, but as for Lucas ,though I have not seen him run myself, a couple of respected. experienced dog men, whose opinions I trust have and they rate him a very good animal indeed.

On some land a lot of decent dogs can make a catch or two,and flatter only to deceive when they are on other ground where the quarry is either turbo-charged and straight lines them.or there is an abundance of hedges and drains for them to throw off the dog and pipe into.

The fact that his owner has been willing to run him in public out of his comfort zone of home ground ,speaks for itself. he has run and caught his game on all sorts of ground . i think it is a given he is the real deal. The other dog is still young and may improve further so I'd say its too soon to give a definitive opinion of him because he may get even better.

Good points mate. I wasn't really aiming it at Lucas as much as I was bulldozer but had to include him cos that was the match. Gorger has stood up to the plate, stood toe to toe with 'the best fen dog' on the fens. I've a lot of respect for that and gorger knows that. Yes bulldozer is a young dog but wouldn't you agree, if he's young and relatively unproven, all the more reason he shouldn't be at stud? £1000 at that, blimey, says what the coursing lads are all about now don't you think?

The owner of Bulldozer is entitled to charge what he likes for a lining.

As to whether it is worth it ? I couldnt possibly comment .

I think u can look at bully 2ways young and un proven in some people's eyes young and proven in other people's eyes. When u have had the benefit of seeing the dog in question back up the story's of 4s and 5s on best land and best quarry with your own eyes its difficult not to pipe up and argue the point but after all its an open forum and people all have opinions. People all know this year the forley wasn't great people pulling out or injured dogs but jb and bully can only run whoever turns up and he beat anybody who did but people also forget at 17months this dog competed in his first season on the fen against mature seasoned dogs and in 5 matches in the forley didn't miss a hare now no other dog in the comp did that not even fly the winner. It's a matter of opinion wether that makes him a proven dog or not and for the men who have paid the 1000 stud fee well it's obvious which way there opinion went. Then there's the fact of well respected coursing men who's opinions mean something that have all seen this dog run the likes of m baker j Davis jim lofty d reed m Loverage the list goes they also seen this dog back up the storys this is y bully has a busy summer off lol in my opinion he is proven and his generations of breeding from both sure and dam are also proven so for that reason alone I think he is well worth the 1000 stud.

[Millet 4,497]

It's a sad fact that too many lurcher owners these days see their dogs as some sort of kudos thing. Whatever happened to the lurchers which went out quietly and worked with no fanfare,no shouting, no song and dance, and most of all no element of competition with other owners?

 

I though lurchers were supposed to be about hunting, not increasing their owners' profile or bigging up their egos. Seems to me that whilst there are plenty of people who do go out and quietly do their own thing with their dogs, it is mostly the 'daywalkers' (to use baw's words) that like to shout about their dogs to all and sundry.

 

There's always going to be an element of competition between like minded dog men/women, but the crazy money that is bet on matches has nothing to do with a friendly best of 3 morning out with a mate.

 

Another thing: why is it that the worst in any society get all the publicity, whilst the good, decent and 'keep your head down' brigade slip quietly away under the radar? And I bet there's twice as many really good dogs under the radar as there is in the limelight. Just because someone doesn't shout about what they've got doesn't mean they don't have it.

I bet everybody who has liked this post has or has had shite dog's under the radar. .i myself did try to like the post but i have ran out for today.. ..cracking post penny and the nail is well and truely clouted on the head..

[oldmancoursing 228]

i paid 500 for my pup about16 yrs ago.....mates said i was mad they said u can get a decent pup for 200.. since i bought this pup i neverspent a bit of money on pups only for one stud fee which was a grand 10 yrs ago... u not only gettign a line of a good dog u getting lines of it father and grand father and its great grandather and so on...1000 split between 8 people is125 each cheap as feck for a decent bred pup... but u need top quality bred bitches that more important...

[morton 5,367]

i paid 500 for my pup about16 yrs ago.....mates said i was mad they said u can get a decent pup for 200.. since i bought this pup i neverspent a bit of money on pups only for one stud fee which was a grand 10 yrs ago... u not only gettign a line of a good dog u getting lines of it father and grand father and its great grandather and so on...1000 split between 8 people is125 each cheap as feck for a decent bred pup... but u need top quality bred bitches that more important...

Id agree to a certain extent,what about the dogs in the kennels of lesser known men,dogs that do the bizz season in and out,dogs that can be sourced buckshee or for a small fee,dogs that when they hit the spotlight of so called top dog men are bought for extravagant amounts of dosh and then run on in another mans name,then command extravagant fees for pups and stud.Most of these so called top bloodlines originate in lesser known and cheaper sourced kennels.

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

excuse my ignorance whats a day walker,sounds like something from another planet,

most f***ing are on another planet-the shit they talk

[FUJI 16,330]

Lot of truth in that post Morton..just because "so and so" who's known to many don't mean his dog is above all and everyone elses and warrants mega bucks for a stud of his mutt..but there are a lot of sheep around and you know what they are like for just following one another lol...

Edited February 24, 2013 by FUJI

[oldmancoursing 228]

in the coursing game there not many dogs that are not known if they doing the buisness... especially down fens.. day time men as people call them like to have there egos inflated mate.. my mate seen bulldozer run and he was there atthe start of the line andhe said he a top dog.. and unlike so many lads he tells truth//..

[bobby blackheart 1,209]

 

how much do people pay for a well bred coursing type pup?and if its over £100 do they get any guarrantees,

What exactly could you guarantee about any pup?

it will eat and shit for sure

[morton 5,367]

Lot of truth in that post Morton..just because "so and so" who's known to many don't mean his dog is above all and everyone elses and warrants mega bucks for a stud of his mutt..but there are a lot of sheep around and you know what they are like for just following one another lol...

I owned a bitch,bred from a lad in St.Helens,84-85,paid £40,at 13 month old it pissed all over a so called top dog that cost £1100,the fella offered me £100 for the bitch,possibly thinking a young fella would be enamoured by his name and brass,i laughed and went my way,a fortnight later the dog was taken from my kennels,i oft wonder how much of todays modern breeding comes from her.Top dogs are often bred from unknown lines and disguised as other breedings.

[FUJI 16,330]

You ain't wrong Morton...look at all the controversary over the Tor of Dartmoor dog! Ardkinglass Deerhounds and the "greyhound" blood added to them...the dog game is full of "controversary" and no more so than on the breeding side of things IMO.

[Qbgrey 3,989]

 

Lot of truth in that post Morton..just because "so and so" who's known to many don't mean his dog is above all and everyone elses and warrants mega bucks for a stud of his mutt..but there are a lot of sheep around and you know what they are like for just following one another lol...

I owned a bitch,bred from a lad in St.Helens,84-85,paid £40,at 13 month old it pissed all over a so called top dog that cost £1100,the fella offered me £100 for the bitch,possibly thinking a young fella would be enamoured by his name and brass,i laughed and went my way,a fortnight later the dog was taken from my kennels,i oft wonder how much of todays modern breeding comes from her.Top dogs are often bred from unknown lines and disguised as other breedings.

thats the exact reason i dont post pictures or posts about dog.my dog no world beater anyway,just like a good nights out,regardless of numbers bagged.