Born Hunter 17,910 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I agree paulus, personally I believe that any responsible citizen should be able to own a shotgun for home defense. But these are just opinions, not hard scientific facts. I'm just saying that drawing conclusions from the stats can be flawed if not looked at in depth and with a certain amount of intelligence (not calling anybody stupid either). why do you think all guns held legally by the public are held under license, so they know where to fetch them from if they ever need to, civil unrest ect "They'll have to pry my gun from my cold dead fingers" Only joking your honour, I would of course give them all up straight away on request, like the good citizen I am. Just incase the authorities may take that comment out of context......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waz 4,293 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) Piers got his ass handed to him, his last words were 'yeah whatever' Kevin & Perry styleee LOL. Until fairly recently (old boys gone toes up) I had a client who was a retired sub editor (Fleet Street) years ago I remember him telling me that Mr Morgan would use anything to get to where he wanted, he's riding this gun thing pretty well I see. Edited January 8, 2013 by GD Waz 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I agree paulus, personally I believe that any responsible citizen should be able to own a shotgun for home defense. But these are just opinions, not hard scientific facts. I'm just saying that drawing conclusions from the stats can be flawed if not looked at in depth and with a certain amount of intelligence (not calling anybody stupid either). why do you think all guns held legally by the public are held under license, so they know where to fetch them from if they ever need to, civil unrest ect "They'll have to pry my gun from my cold dead fingers" Only joking your honour, I would of course give them all up straight away on request, like the good citizen I am. Just incase the authorities may take that comment out of context......... arse licker seriously though if you take one of the arab up risings do you think any of that would have been possible without the public having access to arms of course it wouldnt if the state controls the guns the state controls full stop Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JohnGalway 1,043 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) Morgan in a redcoat in the poster : http://www.infowars.com/ Lol, good man Alex. Damn communists! Edited January 8, 2013 by JohnGalway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 4,007 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Someone who Shouts constantly over people erratically doesn't want to face certain Questions andnthis bloke done some shouting , Morgan has a point about having certain guns who In there right mind needs an AK47 or any Assault Rifle to protect themselves . . . I will tell you who a serving Soldier does , to protect yourself a small calibre hand gun would do the damage you'd need to STOP Someone attempting to hurt you surely , Why do they have the High Volocity Rifles . . . BECAUSE THEY CAN , I'm confident if they could have Tanks In there Drives over there THEY WOULD ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Someone who Shouts constantly over people erratically doesn't want to face certain Questions andnthis bloke done some shouting , Morgan has a point about having certain guns who In there right mind needs an AK47 or any Assault Rifle to protect themselves . . . I will tell you who a serving Soldier does , to protect yourself a small calibre hand gun would do the damage you'd need to STOP Someone attempting to hurt you surely , Why do they have the High Volocity Rifles . . . BECAUSE THEY CAN , I'm confident if they could have Tanks In there Drives over there THEY WOULD ! most killings in the states are committed with 22 cal why do people need 4 litre 4 x 4`s for the school run or 8 bedroomed houses for a single person the answer is because they can and who is anyone to tell them they carnt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
graham4877 1,181 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Someone who Shouts constantly over people erratically doesn't want to face certain Questions andnthis bloke done some shouting , Morgan has a point about having certain guns who In there right mind needs an AK47 or any Assault Rifle to protect themselves . . . I will tell you who a serving Soldier does , to protect yourself a small calibre hand gun would do the damage you'd need to STOP Someone attempting to hurt you surely , Why do they have the High Volocity Rifles . . . BECAUSE THEY CAN , I'm confident if they could have Tanks In there Drives over there THEY WOULD ! most killings in the states are committed with 22 cal why do people need 4 litre 4 x 4`s for the school run or 8 bedroomed houses for a single person the answer is because they can and who is anyone to tell them they carnt To right.. :thumbs: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 4,007 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Someone who Shouts constantly over people erratically doesn't want to face certain Questions andnthis bloke done some shouting , Morgan has a point about having certain guns who In there right mind needs an AK47 or any Assault Rifle to protect themselves . . . I will tell you who a serving Soldier does , to protect yourself a small calibre hand gun would do the damage you'd need to STOP Someone attempting to hurt you surely , Why do they have the High Volocity Rifles . . . BECAUSE THEY CAN , I'm confident if they could have Tanks In there Drives over there THEY WOULD ! most killings in the states are committed with 22 cal why do people need 4 litre 4 x 4`s for the school run or 8 bedroomed houses for a single person the answer is because they can and who is anyone to tell them they carnt I didn't see anyone go in a School with A 4x4 or the Deeds to a house and DESTROY hundreds off lives in minutes , who is anyone too tell them they can't . . . That's the problem there isn't at the moment , those kids Killed last month died from the Barrel off an Assault Rifle owned by a Middle aged Woman . . . Any middle aged women in the UK own 1 . . No , and the reason she did was because she could and her son had access to take 20 children's lives through her stupidity in owning a gun that she DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE BUT DID CAUSE SHE COULD ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Someone who Shouts constantly over people erratically doesn't want to face certain Questions andnthis bloke done some shouting , Morgan has a point about having certain guns who In there right mind needs an AK47 or any Assault Rifle to protect themselves . . . I will tell you who a serving Soldier does , to protect yourself a small calibre hand gun would do the damage you'd need to STOP Someone attempting to hurt you surely , Why do they have the High Volocity Rifles . . . BECAUSE THEY CAN , I'm confident if they could have Tanks In there Drives over there THEY WOULD ! most killings in the states are committed with 22 cal why do people need 4 litre 4 x 4`s for the school run or 8 bedroomed houses for a single person the answer is because they can and who is anyone to tell them they carnt I didn't see anyone go in a School with A 4x4 or the Deeds to a house and DESTROY hundreds off lives in minutes , who is anyone too tell them they can't . . . That's the problem there isn't at the moment , those kids Killed last month died from the Barrel off an Assault Rifle owned by a Middle aged Woman . . . Any middle aged women in the UK own 1 . . No , and the reason she did was because she could and her son had access to take 20 children's lives through her stupidity in owning a gun that she DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE BUT DID CAUSE SHE COULD ! a home made bomb would achieve the same result, its not the object used it the intent of the person, thats the problem, stand a 50 cal in the corner of the room and years later it will still be there, give it a nutter for 5 seconds and that 50cal would be blamed as much as the nutter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 4,007 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Someone who Shouts constantly over people erratically doesn't want to face certain Questions andnthis bloke done some shouting , Morgan has a point about having certain guns who In there right mind needs an AK47 or any Assault Rifle to protect themselves . . . I will tell you who a serving Soldier does , to protect yourself a small calibre hand gun would do the damage you'd need to STOP Someone attempting to hurt you surely , Why do they have the High Volocity Rifles . . . BECAUSE THEY CAN , I'm confident if they could have Tanks In there Drives over there THEY WOULD ! most killings in the states are committed with 22 cal why do people need 4 litre 4 x 4`s for the school run or 8 bedroomed houses for a single person the answer is because they can and who is anyone to tell them they carnt I didn't see anyone go in a School with A 4x4 or the Deeds to a house and DESTROY hundreds off lives in minutes , who is anyone too tell them they can't . . . That's the problem there isn't at the moment , those kids Killed last month died from the Barrel off an Assault Rifle owned by a Middle aged Woman . . . Any middle aged women in the UK own 1 . . No , and the reason she did was because she could and her son had access to take 20 children's lives through her stupidity in owning a gun that she DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE BUT DID CAUSE SHE COULD ! a home made bomb would achieve the same result, its not the object used it the intent of the person, thats the problem, stand a 50 cal in the corner of the room and years later it will still be there, give it a nutter for 5 seconds and that 50cal would be blamed as much as the nutter. When you see pictures off 20 young kids Murdered surely that would tell a sane person we need to Ban these weapons that are really not needed and serve no purpose what so ever in civilian everyday life , the world we live in there will be people who make bombs ect to go out and randomly kill innocent people and we have no way off preventing this at times . . But we do have a say in this type off fire arm and to say people should be allowed to walk down the local Gun shop and buy 1 because they can is Madness , by no means am i Sayin Ban All Guns , I just think for Protection a hand gun would be enough and yes they will be used to commit crimes but not as Destructive as the assault weapons . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Someone who Shouts constantly over people erratically doesn't want to face certain Questions andnthis bloke done some shouting , Morgan has a point about having certain guns who In there right mind needs an AK47 or any Assault Rifle to protect themselves . . . I will tell you who a serving Soldier does , to protect yourself a small calibre hand gun would do the damage you'd need to STOP Someone attempting to hurt you surely , Why do they have the High Volocity Rifles . . . BECAUSE THEY CAN , I'm confident if they could have Tanks In there Drives over there THEY WOULD ! most killings in the states are committed with 22 cal why do people need 4 litre 4 x 4`s for the school run or 8 bedroomed houses for a single person the answer is because they can and who is anyone to tell them they carnt I didn't see anyone go in a School with A 4x4 or the Deeds to a house and DESTROY hundreds off lives in minutes , who is anyone too tell them they can't . . . That's the problem there isn't at the moment , those kids Killed last month died from the Barrel off an Assault Rifle owned by a Middle aged Woman . . . Any middle aged women in the UK own 1 . . No , and the reason she did was because she could and her son had access to take 20 children's lives through her stupidity in owning a gun that she DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE BUT DID CAUSE SHE COULD ! a home made bomb would achieve the same result, its not the object used it the intent of the person, thats the problem, stand a 50 cal in the corner of the room and years later it will still be there, give it a nutter for 5 seconds and that 50cal would be blamed as much as the nutter. When you see pictures off 20 young kids Murdered surely that would tell a sane person we need to Ban these weapons that are really not needed and serve no purpose what so ever in civilian everyday life , the world we live in there will be people who make bombs ect to go out and randomly kill innocent people and we have no way off preventing this at times . . But we do have a say in this type off fire arm and to say people should be allowed to walk down the local Gun shop and buy 1 because they can is Madness , by no means am i Sayin Ban All Guns , I just think for Protection a hand gun would be enough and yes they will be used to commit crimes but not as Destructive as the assault weapons . as i said its the individual or society at fault. no weapon is dangerous regardless of calibre untill a human being picks it up. whats to stop someone jumping in a bus and running it a large group of people, do we ban busses because there more dangerous than mopeds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 yes yes were not stupid.we do realise that if you wanted to go into a school or other building to kill people,im pretty sure we would find a way.however lets not make it easy for the loonies and give them access to guns to do it. seriously i dont know where half you lads live,but it seems you are living under seige and in fear of your lifes. im not even a dad and id fear for kids if we had the same gun laws here. and just again for the record.i have no probs with shotguns rifles for sport or for your job.handguns machine guns in the populace!i think not. or put it another way,ill bet that for every hangun assault rifle sold in the usa,they will be 6 lunatics who really not ought to be sold one.it would only be a matter of time before some wee chav c**t walked into the classroom to settle an argument with a shooter,what would you advise then.arming your sons to got to school on the offchance a gunman walked in to his school.oh how our nation would change for the worse. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 yes yes were not stupid.we do realise that if you wanted to go into a school or other building to kill people,im pretty sure we would find a way.however lets not make it easy for the loonies and give them access to guns to do it. seriously i dont know where half you lads live,but it seems you are living under seige and in fear of your lifes. im not even a dad and id fear for kids if we had the same gun laws here. and just again for the record.i have no probs with shotguns rifles for sport or for your job.handguns machine guns in the populace!i think not. some people keep large snakes that can kill them and others, some people race fast cars that can kill them and others, where do you draw the line, guns need to be licensed agreed but and its a big but saying one one gun is more dangerous than another is daft Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 hows it daft?lets no split hairs here.the calibre of the weapon in the legislation isnt daft.the thinking was if a nutter goes on a kill crazy rampage in the high street with a shotgun or a.22 someones gonna take him down after his two shots.a machine gun in a high street.mayhem and carnage! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 4,007 Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 (edited) Paulista a bus in an essential mode off every day , transport and if that did happen there's not 1 person who would say ban the bus , these Assault Rifles are Designed to Kill 10s off people at a time mate and that should only be happening in War's , as Ive said if they where an every day essential like a knife , vehicle ect I'd agree with them being in society but FORTUNATELY THERE NOT , Question for you mate imagine your neighbour who liked a drink having an array off Assault Rifles in his House would you feel comfortable with that ... Cause I know I wouldn't . Edited to add I spelt Paulus . . , paulista lol sorry . Edited January 8, 2013 by lanesra 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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