skycat 6,174 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Nothing better than seeing dogs use their experience and brains to put themselves in the right place: of course, as pups they get it wrong, some run around like headless chickens but they learn in time, and the only way to do that is to give them the freedom to do so. 1 Quote Link to post
Mixed Bag 603 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 I would say the opposites true success breeds success keep the lurcher on the slip let it watch the terriers spaniels or whatever bushing stuff out slip it get it some kills then once it knows the craic let it off to find its own position in the pack if you let it run riot its going to miss loads of good opportunities before the penny drops i like to make things as easy for a pup as possible 1 Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,729 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Well said Chalky..I find with mine at least the bitch I have which is half coursing bred kind of expects to be run off a slip even though she is loose..she is a "scanner" just looking for the slightest movement where my cur type will hunt the thickest of cover yet if anything breaks he nigh on always seems to be in the right place lol I guess it's just experience that puts him in the correct position at that crucial moment..obviously in days gone by when running deer and fox a successful way was to beat out copses,marsh beds,plantations etc and be positioned in areas which was to the dogs advantage and the way we and most lads done this was by keeping dogs on slips..all in hindsight now though..Atb Andy Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,739 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Understand the logic with the 'slip lead' business,.and if someone was beating through a small wood, for the deer,..well yes, it would certainly be beneficial to hold the dog back and wait for the break...(fecking exciting )....but, I only hunt the rabbits nowadays and I find it best to let the dogs do their thing,..' free as a bird'...and as you so rightly say,..they soon learn to watch each other's body language and rush to join in the action. If I had to hold a working style lurcher on a slip lead,..the prey would be up and running, long before I flicked the switch,.. But, that is just the way I do it,.. and I could well be wrong.. Quote Link to post
danny300 2,240 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 when out with the terriers and springers lurchers run free and watch the dogs in cover or if out foxhunting with hounds lurcher on a slip waiting for a bolt. 2 Quote Link to post
Bossie 90 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 most times when out with other lads dogs, the other dogs let Bryn mark or go in cover, lol its quite strange really as the dogs, just do it with out being told.! Even my pup Buck just stands back like the other older dogs do, Bryn like a springer he marks+ goes in ,dont see many lurchers go in cover like him he marked these and got them .! What kind of breeding are the two on the right? (the dogs) Quote Link to post
FUJI 17,729 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Quality pic Chalky.. It's a good un :-) Quote Link to post
Tiny 7 1,694 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Ill second that class pic...!! Quote Link to post
morton 5,369 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 My lurchers learn to read the terriers at work and then position themselves accordingly,sometimes a dog may need positioning to a known escape route,its on with a lead then,if bolting bunnys its better to have one dog on slip and the other loose,i use 2 lurchers,otherwise they may both follow the initial bolt and the next bunny will be away.So for me its off slip until its productive to hold one in reserve. 1 Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 most times when out with other lads dogs, the other dogs let Bryn mark or go in cover, lol its quite strange really as the dogs, just do it with out being told.! Even my pup Buck just stands back like the other older dogs do, Bryn like a springer he marks+ goes in ,dont see many lurchers go in cover like him he marked these and got them .! What kind of breeding are the two on the right? (the dogs) gsd x greyhounds , brindle bitch line bred gsdxgrey, other 1x gsd x grey Quote Link to post
ferret guru 13 Posted December 17, 2012 Report Share Posted December 17, 2012 Good topic I'm just gettin into lurcher hunting and was wondering about the bush dogs how do you stop them from hunting too far ahead of you ? I have a terrier and a Springer x the terrier is fine but the Springer x keeps hunting too far ahead of me .any advice sound advice welcome Quote Link to post
bird 10,014 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Good topic I'm just gettin into lurcher hunting and was wondering about the bush dogs how do you stop them from hunting too far ahead of you ? I have a terrier and a Springer x the terrier is fine but the Springer x keeps hunting too far ahead of me .any advice sound advice welcome prob better ask the gundog lads that one, as lurchers well mine will go in cover if there is (somthing) there. And i think the differnce is springer or terrier, will just go (looking) through cover for game if its there or not, thats why they get infront And most times i not far from the dog, and norm other lurchers will wait outside ready for the bolt, from Bryn my lurcher. He does great job and easy to keep up with not like a hot headed springer lol Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 let them run and do what comes natural to a pack, they wont learn nout on a lead.................. Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 Good topic I'm just gettin into lurcher hunting and was wondering about the bush dogs how do you stop them from hunting too far ahead of you ? I have a terrier and a Springer x the terrier is fine but the Springer x keeps hunting too far ahead of me .any advice sound advice welcome JUST TELL THEM IN BEHIND IF THERE GETTING TO FAR OUT. OBVIOUSLY YOU TRAIN YOUR DOG,S Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted December 18, 2012 Report Share Posted December 18, 2012 TERRIERS AND LURCHERS ALWAY,S WORK BETTER WHEN THERE FREE. ITLL TAKE A SEASON TO GET THEM TUNED BUT WHEN THERE ON THE MONEY THERE SXIT HOT. Quote Link to post
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