turkish 298 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game. cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho. why did the wheatens have to dig on did yas not clear the holes out right or was your earth dogs sitting too far back? Quote Link to post
bulljack 480 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game. cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho. why did the wheatens have to dig on did yas not clear the holes out right or was your earth dogs sitting too far back? no bnf back then . Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game. cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho. Badgers were well fed and watered leading up to trials,any dog that done nothing was lifted straight away as he was no good and had failed the test.Six minutes is a long time in a shore going hell for leather with such a formidable foe and any dog who passed this test(many did not)was fully tested.Many men gave their dogs much more than six minutes when training them in private shores.Them days are long gone and are part of history,but dont knock the dogs saying it was not a serious test,i seen serious game dogs failing that test.I wonder how many so called good dogs would pass it now?Just to add those men many of them gone were no fools when it came to game dogs or trial dogs,todays generation should try and learn from them not pick holes or try and say they have a better answer.Those were the men who made Irish dogs. Edited July 29, 2012 by liamdelaney 7 Quote Link to post
bulljack 480 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 well said liam you have alot more experiance than me at these trials.i am just going on what i remember as a young lad, we had plenty of private trials too and i am not puting the dogs or men down i just preferd to see them work natural shores. i have some old pics and certs here you are welcome drop in to me anytime for a look as i cant put them up here. 1 Quote Link to post
mushray 246 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game. cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho. Badgers were well fed and watered leading up to trials,any dog that done nothing was lifted straight away as he was no good and had failed the test.Six minutes is a long time in a shore going hell for leather with such a formidable foe and any dog who passed this test(many did not)was fully tested.Many men gave their dogs much more than six minutes when training them in private shores.Them days are long gone and are part of history,but dont knock the dogs saying it was not a serious test,i seen serious game dogs failing that test.I wonder how many so called good dogs would pass it now?Just to add those men many of them gone were no fools when it came to game dogs or trial dogs,todays generation should try and learn from them not pick holes or try and say they have a better answer.Those were the men who made Irish dogs. Liam you forgot to say (6 minutes without making a sound) any dogs thats were noisy were lifted and failed to satisfied the judges. Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game. cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho. Badgers were well fed and watered leading up to trials,any dog that done nothing was lifted straight away as he was no good and had failed the test.Six minutes is a long time in a shore going hell for leather with such a formidable foe and any dog who passed this test(many did not)was fully tested.Many men gave their dogs much more than six minutes when training them in private shores.Them days are long gone and are part of history,but dont knock the dogs saying it was not a serious test,i seen serious game dogs failing that test.I wonder how many so called good dogs would pass it now?Just to add those men many of them gone were no fools when it came to game dogs or trial dogs,todays generation should try and learn from them not pick holes or try and say they have a better answer.Those were the men who made Irish dogs. Liam you forgot to say (6 minutes without making a sound) any dogs thats were noisy were lifted and failed to satisfied the judges. Once saw a white english bull barking like a sounder,next time he certified his owner done a job on his voicebox.Not recommended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
blackdog4 75 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game. cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho. Badgers were well fed and watered leading up to trials,any dog that done nothing was lifted straight away as he was no good and had failed the test.Six minutes is a long time in a shore going hell for leather with such a formidable foe and any dog who passed this test(many did not)was fully tested.Many men gave their dogs much more than six minutes when training them in private shores.Them days are long gone and are part of history,but dont knock the dogs saying it was not a serious test,i seen serious game dogs failing that test.I wonder how many so called good dogs would pass it now?Just to add those men many of them gone were no fools when it came to game dogs or trial dogs,todays generation should try and learn from them not pick holes or try and say they have a better answer.Those were the men who made Irish dogs. Liam you forgot to say (6 minutes without making a sound) any dogs thats were noisy were lifted and failed to satisfied the judges. Once saw a white english bull barking like a sounder,next time he certified his owner done a job on his voicebox.Not recommended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! liam what did u do whith that white english bull anyway Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 i was at a few trials as a young lad and they were no test for a dog, man made shores no roots or rocks in the way and the game was allready soft, looking back now it was cruelty but they where differnt times the strong dogs did a few minutes work on soft game. cruel lolol have you never worked a strong dog? im sure that the badgers were not soft after getting worked a few times i reckon theyd give a good account of them selves. so do you think that the dogs at the trials didnt work? its coming across that way yes i worked many strong dogs, and the game was soft how do you think the badgers got to the trials, they were dug allready worked by dogs then left in cages all day in the heat then droped under the boards compleatly out of there natural enviorment overheated and tired. i saw dogs that did nothing under the boards then locked on to the game when boards where lifted, this was no test for a strong dog imo. my wheatens worked for many hours hunting cover and drawing from 3 or 4 sets in aday many of them were very deep drops 7 or 8 foot and the dogs often had to dig on before drawing so yes i do think the dogs werent tested fully jmho. Badgers were well fed and watered leading up to trials,any dog that done nothing was lifted straight away as he was no good and had failed the test.Six minutes is a long time in a shore going hell for leather with such a formidable foe and any dog who passed this test(many did not)was fully tested.Many men gave their dogs much more than six minutes when training them in private shores.Them days are long gone and are part of history,but dont knock the dogs saying it was not a serious test,i seen serious game dogs failing that test.I wonder how many so called good dogs would pass it now?Just to add those men many of them gone were no fools when it came to game dogs or trial dogs,todays generation should try and learn from them not pick holes or try and say they have a better answer.Those were the men who made Irish dogs. Liam you forgot to say (6 minutes without making a sound) any dogs thats were noisy were lifted and failed to satisfied the judges. Once saw a white english bull barking like a sounder,next time he certified his owner done a job on his voicebox.Not recommended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! liam what did u do whith that white english bull anyway Never wasted my time with the white bulls,they were useless even then. Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 (edited) What good would taking a dogs voicebox out do ! I've heard it all now. Edited July 31, 2012 by MUDD Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 What good would taking a dogs voicebox out do ! I've heard it all now. I never said he took it out. Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 What good would taking a dogs voicebox out do ! I've heard it all now. I never said he took it out. What good would doing a job on it do ? Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 What good would taking a dogs voicebox out do ! I've heard it all now. I never said he took it out. What good would doing a job on it do ? No don't answer that, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 What good would taking a dogs voicebox out do ! I've heard it all now. I never said he took it out. What good would doing a job on it do ? No don't answer that, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Most things are stupid,until understood. Quote Link to post
MUDD 374 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 What good would taking a dogs voicebox out do ! I've heard it all now. I never said he took it out. What good would doing a job on it do ? No don't answer that, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Most things are stupid,until understood. Trust me I understand. Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 What good would taking a dogs voicebox out do ! I've heard it all now. I never said he took it out. What good would doing a job on it do ? No don't answer that, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Most things are stupid,until understood. Trust me I understand. So why are you asking? Quote Link to post
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