leegreen 2,100 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 id get a rottie stay away from them mastifs if you got kids theres always one ragin a kid somewhere in papers and true or not why take chance And a Rottie is not Molosser type? I have Mastiffs and regard them as one of the most calm dogs I have owned, but if you need a true protection/guard dog who is going to be in control of it. I would say try and find some dogs and see if any of them suit your needs. Research is key to finding the right dog. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.P.R 2,798 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 dont join the army. honestly its not worth it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Well bred gsd i miss mine like mad she was trained not to take food from anyone as well and she was easy to train and a joy to have in the house.She was well trained and would "tell people" if you told her too by barking and lunging but not making contact.Great round kids as well love their own family naturally weary of strangers as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
villebones 4 Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have a russell that will bark and alert me to any one near the back gate, however I want something that will back up the barking if needs be. Can anyone recommend a decent breeder of GSD or rottweilers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judge2010 196 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 bullmastiff x bull is whats guarding mine at the moment also reccomend boerboel,rottweiler & Presa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,019 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Them boerboels are scary feckers but I would say anything of that size is OTT, unless someone is hell bent on stealing something valuable you have or intent on doing you harm then pretty much any dog is a deterrent. When a dog kicks off barking it makes it very uncomfortable for the thieving scum who normally beat a hasty retreat. Next door to us have had the garden furniture pinched and an attempted break in within the last year but so far my russel seems to be doing the trick at protecting ours. No dog is bullet proof or immune to poison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,599 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Them boerboels are scary feckers but I would say anything of that size is OTT, unless someone is hell bent on stealing something valuable you have or intent on doing you harm then pretty much any dog is a deterrent. When a dog kicks off barking it makes it very uncomfortable for the thieving scum who normally beat a hasty retreat. Next door to us have had the garden furniture pinched and an attempted break in within the last year but so far my russel seems to be doing the trick at protecting ours. No dog is bullet proof or immune to poison. all the big breeds like them will have short working life, bad HD and not long lived, it dont matter what the breeders tell you, they breed for size and thats what feck 'um up . Any guard dog of -90lbs will stop a man, if the dog bred right+ the temp right. A good GSD or Rottie , another dog that will guard+bite is ACD 50lb of teeth 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lietome 138 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 id get a rottie stay away from them mastifs if you got kids theres always one ragin a kid somewhere in papers and true or not why take chance kids shouldnt be left alone with any breed look up which dog is most likely to bite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SLiP tHe DoG ! 129 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 no expert , but i would trust a german sheperd/alsation more around kids imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BULLDOUG 199 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Them boerboels are scary feckers but I would say anything of that size is OTT, unless someone is hell bent on stealing something valuable you have or intent on doing you harm then pretty much any dog is a deterrent. When a dog kicks off barking it makes it very uncomfortable for the thieving scum who normally beat a hasty retreat. Next door to us have had the garden furniture pinched and an attempted break in within the last year but so far my russel seems to be doing the trick at protecting ours. No dog is bullet proof or immune to poison. all the big breeds like them will have short working life, bad HD and not long lived, it dont matter what the breeders tell you, they breed for size and thats what feck 'um up . Any guard dog of -90lbs will stop a man, if the dog bred right+ the temp right. A good GSD or Rottie , another dog that will guard+bite is ACD 50lb of teeth Well said Ray, if i was looking for an out and out protector / guard then the GSD / Dobey would be my first choice on averages, but i never do anything the easy way so knowing me ide end up with a BSD, i love this breed. ATB D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lietome 138 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Them boerboels are scary feckers but I would say anything of that size is OTT, unless someone is hell bent on stealing something valuable you have or intent on doing you harm then pretty much any dog is a deterrent. When a dog kicks off barking it makes it very uncomfortable for the thieving scum who normally beat a hasty retreat. Next door to us have had the garden furniture pinched and an attempted break in within the last year but so far my russel seems to be doing the trick at protecting ours. No dog is bullet proof or immune to poison. all the big breeds like them will have short working life, bad HD and not long lived, it dont matter what the breeders tell you, they breed for size and thats what feck 'um up . Any guard dog of -90lbs will stop a man, if the dog bred right+ the temp right. A good GSD or Rottie , another dog that will guard+bite is ACD 50lb of teeth Well said Ray, if i was looking for an out and out protector / guard then the GSD / Dobey would be my first choice on averages, but i never do anything the easy way so knowing me ide end up with a BSD, i love this breed. ATB D property gaurds gsd or mali personal protection one of the bigger working bull types who will take more punishment when things hit back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,599 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Them boerboels are scary feckers but I would say anything of that size is OTT, unless someone is hell bent on stealing something valuable you have or intent on doing you harm then pretty much any dog is a deterrent. When a dog kicks off barking it makes it very uncomfortable for the thieving scum who normally beat a hasty retreat. Next door to us have had the garden furniture pinched and an attempted break in within the last year but so far my russel seems to be doing the trick at protecting ours. No dog is bullet proof or immune to poison. all the big breeds like them will have short working life, bad HD and not long lived, it dont matter what the breeders tell you, they breed for size and thats what feck 'um up . Any guard dog of -90lbs will stop a man, if the dog bred right+ the temp right. A good GSD or Rottie , another dog that will guard+bite is ACD 50lb of teeth Well said Ray, if i was looking for an out and out protector / guard then the GSD / Dobey would be my first choice on averages, but i never do anything the easy way so knowing me ide end up with a BSD, i love this breed. ATB D property gaurds gsd or mali personal protection one of the bigger working bull types who will take more punishment when things hit back yes but lets face it, if a GSD or Mal or Rottie, clamped on most joe public you aint going to hit it. My brother got bite from dalmatian that we had years ago, and my brother said the pain was like if your hand had been slamed in a door when its been closed, very painful.!! This dog was only 60lb , a farm collie will make as mess of you if they bite, some of the feckers ive seen. If a person really wanted to break in your house, they would shoot your dog or poison it no prob, for the average person any 60-90lb dog GSD etc ...... is plenty. If was getting a dog to guard my place, i would get good terrier + bigger dog say GSD .Rottie, or Alano, the Alano not bred for guarding but i like what ive read about them, very healthy mastiff type and not to big 85lb, and any dog will guard with a terrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 My brother got bite from dalmatian that we had years ago, and my brother said the pain was like if your hand had been slamed in a door when its been closed, very painful.!! This dog was only 60lb , a farm collie will make as mess of you if they bite, some of the feckers ive seen. You were even handy with a weighing scale back then Ray, did you get one for Christmas as a child or something....? ..sorry mate, couldn't help myself jumping on the bandwagon! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BULLDOUG 199 Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Them boerboels are scary feckers but I would say anything of that size is OTT, unless someone is hell bent on stealing something valuable you have or intent on doing you harm then pretty much any dog is a deterrent. When a dog kicks off barking it makes it very uncomfortable for the thieving scum who normally beat a hasty retreat. Next door to us have had the garden furniture pinched and an attempted break in within the last year but so far my russel seems to be doing the trick at protecting ours. No dog is bullet proof or immune to poison. all the big breeds like them will have short working life, bad HD and not long lived, it dont matter what the breeders tell you, they breed for size and thats what feck 'um up . Any guard dog of -90lbs will stop a man, if the dog bred right+ the temp right. A good GSD or Rottie , another dog that will guard+bite is ACD 50lb of teeth Well said Ray, if i was looking for an out and out protector / guard then the GSD / Dobey would be my first choice on averages, but i never do anything the easy way so knowing me ide end up with a BSD, i love this breed. ATB D property gaurds gsd or mali personal protection one of the bigger working bull types who will take more punishment when things hit back Ive seen many big tough bulls let go of there bite just because there eyes have been covered, so confidence is a big factor IMO. A dog is only as big as his heart. ATB D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevin kiely 66 Posted September 9, 2011 Report Share Posted September 9, 2011 does covering their eyes actualy help bull breeds to let go? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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