johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I've bred one litter in nearly 30 years and that was accidental,though they were both good dogs in there own right. I gifted all them,though 1 lad gave me some wormers and another lad gave me a sack of dog food and puppy jabs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 Theres a lot who dont need to advertise , and a hell of a lot who gift pups to specific people , which if I am honest is the way I think it should be done Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 My personal thoughts are that I don't agree with the selling on of adult/nearly adult dogs. The way I look at it is when you part with your hard earned for a pup, you are paying for a blank canvas of a dog to try to mould in the way you see fit & that money is spent. If something should happen and the dog needs rehoming, IMO it should be rehomed on a 'free to a good home' basis. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,934 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 True, not everyone has a circle of friends who keep dogs of the type they want and theres nothing wrong with buying stock in, but we do have the net and its not really that hard to do homework to find out if a litter has been bred for the right reason. I have bought dogs and made my mistakes in order to arrive at my present thoughts on the matter.......I would if needs be buy again, but I would make damn sure about who I was buying from and their prime motivation in breeding the litter. Theres no crime in buying in, the crime is encouraging these c**ts who are just doing it for money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CarraghsGem 92 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 My personal thoughts are that I don't agree with the selling on of adult/nearly adult dogs. The way I look at it is when you part with your hard earned for a pup, you are paying for a blank canvas of a dog to try to mould in the way you see fit & that money is spent. If something should happen and the dog needs rehoming, IMO it should be rehomed on a 'free to a good home' basis. what is your opinion on if someone reared a spare pup in their litter to a young adult, with a view to perhaps selling it once it had started working? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 50,934 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 (edited) what is your opinion on if someone reared a spare pup in their litter to a young adult, with a view to perhaps selling it once it had started working? My first (very cynical) thought would be that they had kept 2, seen what one looked more promising/was better and then were disposing of the other one....to my mind, if somethings not good enough to keep, then its not good enough to sell. No saying thats what they are doing, but its an honest reply of what my thoughts would be. Edited June 30, 2011 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 My personal thoughts are that I don't agree with the selling on of adult/nearly adult dogs. The way I look at it is when you part with your hard earned for a pup, you are paying for a blank canvas of a dog to try to mould in the way you see fit & that money is spent. If something should happen and the dog needs rehoming, IMO it should be rehomed on a 'free to a good home' basis. what is your opinion on if someone reared a spare pup in their litter to a young adult, with a view to perhaps selling it once it had started working? That might be an exception, but in truth how often does that happen? More likely lads might keep pups with the intention of working them, only to find they haven't got enough time or enough work for it... I personally wouldn't part with any money for an adult dog either way... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 what is your opinion on if someone reared a spare pup in their litter to a young adult, with a view to perhaps selling it once it had started working? My first (very cynical) thought would be that they had kept 2, seen what one looked more promising/was better and then were disposing of the other one....to my mind, if somethings not good enough to keep, then its not good enough to sell. No saying thats what they are doing, but its an honest reply of what my thoughts would be. I would never sell an older dog but i might give one away in the future if the dog isn't up to standard. Personally working Labs myself if they didnt make the grade they would still be a great pet. Much like a terrier who is no good at digs might be a great busher and lurcher who doesn't like things that bite back might excell at other things.... But if i was going to give it away then i would give it to someone i know well, i would explain any faults and get them to promise that no breeding will take place with the dog of any kind... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lukey 1,621 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 How much dose it cost to rear a litter of working bred pups? Other than stud fees or having to pay vets for any problems during the birth ect how much will it set someone back to have them around for say 6-7 weeks? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 i have stated in the origonal post that i have bought in dogs....... i have not always been around the people i am now, so i have had to buy in dogs, the 2 currect lurchers i have here where both bought in, due to the fact i wanted a specific type an none a my mates bred that type......... but does that gee me the right to sell the pups on, if i breed????? after all i payed for my dogs, an have spent a load a money on there upbringing........ fact is we see pups for sale everyday, even at low prices, any most people say, its to cover the cost a rearing the pups.... way i see it, if i couldnae afford to raise a litterr, i wouldnt do it, i would never breed them an then try an make me money back lets be brutally honest, a litter of pups costs a small fortune to raise,(if done right) but there again, if ye dont breed youd have to buy in, so youd be out of pocket anyways like i said at start, not a dig at anybody whatsoever, it just seems these days every 2nd guy on here gifts his dogs away, yet it always seems to be pups for sale, instead a pups free to good working homes Course that's the case on here mate! Those 'free to good working homes' pups are not that likely to be put up on a forum for anyone to take home, but to be passed out to mates etc. You're not likely to see an advert in the free ads - "Quality litter of pups, sire and dam top workers day and night (can be seen), well reared, socialised etc, free to anyone, first come, first served". So you will never see those free pups on paper. What i meant about charging, is that, once you have given out the pups to your mates etc, if you had one left over, it would be great if you could find a young lad, starting or whatever and gift it to them, but if not, putting "Pup free to a good home" on here, means you will have to seriously vet everyone that wants it as a huge number will be either looking to pass it on, or just want it cos it's free. And when you see what folk pish money away on, i find it funny when they complain about paying 100 quid or so for a DECENT pup. A lot of folk spend that kind of cash each month on pints, or other shit they could do without. So if you don't know the bloke who bred the litter from Adam, but you know the litter was bred for the right reason, i'd think nowt of paying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevin from bristol 95 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 sound like alot of lies on this one ,its amazing that everyone just gives there dogs away must be exellent dogs .theres nothing wrong with buying and selling dogs in my eyes some dogs work with one guy and not another its good to chop and change if needed and a dogs worth what you think it is at the end of the day ive got two i will never sell but i do like to try one or two per season if it dont work out on to someone else they go for the same price i got them thats life ,lot of high horses around the place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevin from bristol 95 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 How much dose it cost to rear a litter of working bred pups? Other than stud fees or having to pay vets for any problems during the birth ect how much will it set someone back to have them around for say 6-7 weeks? god only knows anything could go wrong then you got ,wormers ,shots ,food and alot of time spent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevin from bristol 95 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I've bred one litter in nearly 30 years and that was accidental,though they were both good dogs in there own right. I gifted all them,though 1 lad gave me some wormers and another lad gave me a sack of dog food and puppy jabs. your s saint fella Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted June 30, 2011 Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 I've bred one litter in nearly 30 years and that was accidental,though they were both good dogs in there own right. I gifted all them,though 1 lad gave me some wormers and another lad gave me a sack of dog food and puppy jabs. your s saint fella Thats me mate.............Saint John of Pontypandy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DottyDoo 500 Posted June 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2011 How much dose it cost to rear a litter of working bred pups? Other than stud fees or having to pay vets for any problems during the birth ect how much will it set someone back to have them around for say 6-7 weeks? no mare than it would cost to buy a pup orr 2 in, cos lets face it that should be only reason you breed.... to keep a couple back... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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