MissRhianL 70 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Case yesterday in Cornwall. Guy had self-treated his bull lurcher after a kennel fight with another similar dog. He recieved 3-year ban plus a community order and costs!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
judge2010 196 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 i would imagine most have done the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bob.243 9,757 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Was RSPCA involved? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 He got off light....had it been a different breed it could have been a lifetime ban possibly jail.... its the old " unecessary care and attention by failing to provide veterinary care " laws.....id imagine the rspca had to be involved,because they always tell the truth of course If he had just said it was a lurcher ( no bull )....and said it happened in the field ( not in a kennel fight )....my guess is he wouldnt have been prosecuted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,217 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Without the full story how are we meant to judge? It's all very well saying, what a load of twats, guy did nowt wrong. But how do you know the dogs face wasn't hanging off and he sewed it up with the kit he got out of a cracker??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MissRhianL 70 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I have been told by a contact of mine that he actually treated it very well; antibiotics, analgesics and anti-inflammatories, but the RSPCA attitude was that since he was not a vet he may have done more harm than good. In fact that was patently NOT the case as there is a photo of th...e dog on the day of the RSPCA/Police/local authority raid looking very relaxed indeed, stretched out in the sun. They also object very strongly to the use of staplers, though my expert vet tells me it is perfectly acceptable to the RCVS to use staplers where appropriate. It's a difficult call, but my advice with my lawyer's hat on is that any injury that cannot be described as merely superficial should (purely to avoid prosecution) be taken to a vet. In the case yesterday the RSPCA dropped 2 charges in exchange for a guilty plea on one. I am passing this on for the benefit of all of us who self-treat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) It's a difficult call, but my advice with my lawyer's hat on is that any injury that cannot be described as merely superficial should (purely to avoid prosecution) be taken to a vet. In the case yesterday the RSPCA dropped 2 charges in exchange for a guilty plea on one. I am passing this on for the benefit of all of us who self-treat. Thats where it can get silly though....whats superficial ?....so 1 dog needs a couple of stitches the other dog has a muscle tear.....the muscle tear is by far the more serious injury yet you would get away without taking that to the vet but not the 2 stitches !......Common sense should be the deciding factor but its something the rspca dont possess. Edited June 25, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 The RSPCA object to staplers? Interesting, since they seem to like using bolt guns. Bunch of d!cks. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paid 935 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 (edited) I wonder with hind site, if pleading guilty was a mistake ? Not a lot the court could do, put convict him, after he plead guilty. Edited June 25, 2011 by Paid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 31,602 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I wonder with hind site, if pleading guilty was a mistake ? Not a lot the court could do, put convict him, after he plead guilty. Id imagine a few charges were 50/50 so he took the less serious one as the guilty plea....the rspca are real kind with those sort of compromises Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 he should never have pleaded guilty and he should of gone for crown court not magistrates at least at crown court it will go before a judge and the facts heard instead it was proberbly 3 old women who believe everything the arspca said and he s guilty just by being there ALWAYS REMEMBER MAGISTRATES COURTS ARE PRIVATE COMPANIES THERE IN IT TO MAKE MONEY NEVER MIND THE FACTS, IF THE COUCIL OR RSPCA TAKE YOU TO COURT THEY ALWAYS GO FOR MAGISTRATES AS IT S ALMOST A GUARANTEED CONVICTION Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boyo 1,398 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 fecking discrace you do the best for your dog and they prosecute you i keep loads of stuff in for the dogs but still get huge vet bills as well . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 12,023 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 he should never have pleaded guilty one sentance says it all! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
king squirrel 53 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 if the rspca carnt get you on the charge they are after they will get you on something stupid would they charge someone with a fat over weight dog with not taking care of there pet and not taking it to the vet would they fu*k it is exact the same charge but when do you hear of it never one law for one and one for hunting folks its a joke atb ks and arsepca Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lurchergrrl 1,441 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 My neighbours have an overweight dalmation. Wait, I should correct myself ... an OBESE dalmation. It's so fat it's legs flare out when it walks, which is more a waddle. It's so blubbery you can see the motion of the fat when it moves. Nobody seems to be bothered by that - it's a bloody disgrace. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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