Gilbey 1,408 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 11 hours ago, billhardy said: Six mths around twenty four Ray fifty pound go around twenty six f1 breeding first gen bitch don't know what greyhound or the shepherd lines were.atb bill 11 hours ago, billhardy said: She seven Spring Ray she done pretty much everything all teeth she likes the lines a good line needs strengthening again with a out xs Bucks done you well in field the other bitch only a youngster and in all honesty the was sent me by another acquaintance and he got her fa a companion more than anything. Jaz would only be bred once for a replacement ,I was gonna wait on the malls but jury sill out alsation temps are much more solid and trustworthy.atb bill canny pup, its a 5 month old dog pup off the web though, be around 1 1/2 now..... Saw it recently (and just now), looking to see if they all throw sherperdy Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Gilbey said: canny pup, its a 5 month old dog pup off the web though, be around 1 1/2 now..... Saw it recently (and just now), looking to see if they all throw sherperdy They all throw shepherds other than odd uns when generation bred some come very racey then which about one in four welps even three quarter breds maybey third a the litter racey or leaven less ,the chap with the red sapling sent me those pics bitchy type male then ,been asked for advice on the xs by several one a two other it's like this the temperament his King like gr cattle dogs the mallinois and most herders the best da me on temp are the alsation xs,modern herders have ad other breeds added for certain traits and can make them eighter not completely sound when pressed either with dogs or humansor even livestock not all but the good old alsation xs and I seen a few are totally bomb proof temps . Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,408 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, billhardy said: They all throw shepherds other than odd uns when generation bred some come very racey then which about one in four welps even three quarter breds maybey third a the litter racey or leaven less ,the chap with the red sapling sent me those pics bitchy type male then ,been asked for advice on the xs by several one a two other it's like this the temperament his King like gr cattle dogs the mallinois and most herders the best da me on temp are the alsation xs,modern herders have ad other breeds added for certain traits and can make them eighter not completely sound when pressed either with dogs or humansor even livestock not all but the good old alsation xs and I seen a few are totally bomb proof temps . obvious why their not popular. Someone on here has a cracking black collie/grey x mal/grey. is the chap with the pup local to you ? Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 They not popu,lar fa good reasons and that ain't ability most folk Cana get the best to. Them the collie grey ones. Are from a failed Mali bitch Iowa refused was offers fa a brood she were not up to scratch the welps I seen from her would not take teeth or larger edible that's not ta say they all wouldint the fellow I believe who bred the collie malli greys I believe used a good collie xs ta beget them ,same could be said of the failed ones when out xed ta bull xs bingo back on track took and tackle mostly everything all teeth etc, fa what it's worth there's very few folk with the knowledge on the xes of this type I believe I am one a them owned five alsation greys seen umpteen of them work right back into the seventies before the field trial dogs ,the malls Dan go back a good bit with them the lurcher malls the bull xs malls etc etc,I we have two above average malli lurchers catch anything day or night but you have ta know there limits and we have one bitch that has real stamina they all got it but this bitch his real hard type bitch relentless she like a faking hound .breaks Charlie's on impact .atb bill Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,408 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, billhardy said: They not popu,lar fa good reasons and that ain't ability most folk Cana get the best to. Them the collie grey ones. Are from a failed Mali bitch Iowa refused was offers fa a brood she were not up to scratch the welps I seen from her would not take teeth or larger edible that's not ta say they all wouldint the fellow I believe who bred the collie malli greys I believe used a good collie xs ta beget them ,same could be said of the failed ones when out xed ta bull xs bingo back on track took and tackle mostly everything all teeth etc, fa what it's worth there's very few folk with the knowledge on the xes of this type I believe I am one a them owned five alsation greys seen umpteen of them work right back into the seventies before the field trial dogs ,the malls Dan go back a good bit with them the lurcher malls the bull xs malls etc etc,I we have two above average malli lurchers catch anything day or night but you have ta know there limits and we have one bitch that has real stamina they all got it but this bitch his real hard type bitch relentless she like a faking hound .breaks Charlie's on impact .atb bill that's probably why the dog stands out, the collie grey sire did as well. i meant is the red dog pup local to you? Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gilbey said: that's probably why the dog stands out, the collie grey sire did as well. i meant is the red dog pup local to you? Maybey does it matter I am in the Midlands,atb bill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gilbey said: that's probably why the dog stands out, the collie grey sire did as well. i meant is the red dog pup local to you? Ta me that litter of mall us xs greys would not have happened the bitch was useless,the male we had was useless we ta a pet home ,the ,all I xs we bred from a lurcher was straight cracking malli bitch ta a very well bred lurcher .difference they may not be lookers but graft and that's how I judge a jukel on graft looks imaterial ta me , malls xs when bred right give a harder temp jukel than ether collie types alsation types and maybey perhaps some cattle dogs may run them close I don't know but what I do know hi this breeding from substandard stock will bite yas up the ause ,it's difficult enough from quality animals with out breeding from kc shite that don't want it .when asked.those malli collies lurchers may be the bollocks who knows they certainly look well but means feck all ta me we ask them everything right down to heaviest teeth heaviest edible simples not just a few Conies and maybey big a thus that everything else they would not be bred on from.dont need to world beaters at it all but good genuine trier and want ta get there teeth in. .the right malls are surprisingly hard types and if that comes over in the breeding of a jukel y'all have somethings g ta work with .atb bill Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,408 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 21 minutes ago, billhardy said: Maybey does it matter I am in the Midlands,atb bill not really no, you might of got more interest in the wild camping though. The place it came from homes dogs in the san Francisco Bay area and northern California Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 This his the I ternet Yaa clown don't yas get messages and speak to others from abroad what yas driving at ya. Clown I have MPs from has far a field has New Zealand etc and so do others on here some even travel out the states hunting etc lol.maybey one day fa you fella and that's a big maybey I fir one moment thought you was thinking of giving one a try and wanted some knowledge but hey we live and learn. Tit lol tit atb bill Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,408 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, billhardy said: This his the I ternet Yaa clown don't yas get messages and speak to others from abroad what yas driving at ya. Clown I have MPs from has far a field has New Zealand etc and so do others on here some even travel out the states hunting etc lol.maybey one day fa you fella and that's a big maybey I fir one moment thought you was thinking of giving one a try and wanted some knowledge but hey we live and learn. Tit lol tit atb bill I'll be driving home shortly? Don't have a passport! I'm interested in all working dogs, wouldn't be reading this or recognizing pics other wise Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Gilbey said: I'll be driving home shortly? Don't have a passport! I'm interested in all working dogs, wouldn't be reading this or recognizing pics other wise Well get a passport some a the malls a got them ,are you interested in a well from good Mali Lurcher lines or alsation types we breeding some Alsatian types in the spring failing that malli xs Lurcher types gonna use big buck pm if you like get yas fixed up ,be non a that collie influence though every day a good day with these they don't sulk. Lol,atb bill Quote Link to post
Gilbey 1,408 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) On 10/01/2019 at 15:56, billhardy said: Well get a passport some a the malls a got them ,are you interested in a well from good Mali Lurcher lines or alsation types we breeding some Alsatian types in the spring failing that malli xs Lurcher types gonna use big buck pm if you like get yas fixed up ,be non a that collie influence though every day a good day with these they don't sulk. Lol,atb bill no ta, not in a rush to get either. Will be getting some sort of cur lurcher in the future, maybe even some sort of purebred. Wasn't asking about yours or shepherds in general, just told you about the pic I'd seen whilst looking and asked about the owner.. Edited January 13, 2019 by Gilbey add Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 Well fa what it's worth got a fella was gonna go pure but changed wants a xs bred now jukel pures fine fa what they do but a jukel fa a hunting companion far superior even with just a smidge of hound atbbill reverse types suit you .atb bill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 no katch thing his if ones really keen fa a welp they do there homework not jump in at the deep end Gilbert seems ta do this,if he's the right kind fa the type who knows qui never been in two jukels da wonga gifting his far more rewarding when one gets the info back a genuine working mans price of about fifteen hundred quid sounds fare lol atb bill Quote Link to post
billhardy 2,341 Posted January 10, 2019 Report Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, W. Katchum said: Fcuking hell is it that bad you got talk folk into having a pup Match if I thought you suited one a these I would gift you one but yas not y'all sound one out till it became deaf.big gob.i fa me a couple will do the rest could be culled has it his she will only have ,seven tops five at my estimations.so I t won't be difficult Quote Link to post
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