Thats the thing, it's a different ball game, different dogs, different people good to worse, bad to worse or silly. What I read and the product years ago was the working sealham, it's digging, and the people involved, the weren't there for the fun of it, it was respect and working a dog and in good company, no harm,. Later when I heard of the breed it was trying to reclaim some thing that was probably well gone, then it was lucas terrier, and Sir, who knows, three breeds thrown into one.. But I respect and believe in black and white, the old gentrys of that era, must have been some thing, gene