Stil dnt get the jist of what ur trying to say jimmy are you another disbeleiver in a Kerry blue working? If that is the case meet me and I will show you videos of him working quarry. 16-18lb ????? Im not talking about a shih Tzu the KB we had was 22 inches to shoulder and was close on 30kg. When you talk about top class Kerry man does he breed them to crufts standards to line his pockets or does he breed a proper top class KB to work which was the initial question, we had one, he worked, want another one,why i asked on here. I wudnt be looking for another if i didn't see him work not in the