that's very true neil, my mates were stopped last sunday and the police lady was informed by the uspca that anyone with hounds are killing badgers and held them for 4 hours at the roadside, she took the spades and whilst stroking the dogs asked are thy viscous? she got a sniffer dog brought out to sniff the spades for badger work but the guy with the sniffer dog must have told her she was wasting peoples time, the farmer who owned the land came down to talk to them and th police lady said that he was not to go near them incase he was intimidated by my mates, they were doing legitimate fox