cheers mate. It's not even so much the so called big boys, the guys who own the pups from these legends are even worse on here in my book. They put a pic up of some obscure plodder, here's my dog....... Nice dog mate, how is it? ...... Thanks mate, dogs doing well, its from the same litter as scud missile who's doing 5/5 field or fen, sires shows your money, dams the great grand daughter of whisper it loudly!!!! They bum their dogs up on the back of its parents and siblings!!! f***ing hell..... The dogs done fuckall but pose and its already a potential money maker. Sad times indeed......