i agree 100%, iv never said stalkers are shit, i just said they wasnt for me, but im glad somebody has seen both types work, its the age old saying, 1 mans gold is another mans shite..... horses for courses, i have never said stalkers dont catch bunnys, all i said was mine dont stalk, i actually work full collies aswell, an they stalk, an it catches gear... just not what i want in my running dogs......