Was no effort my friend, the pic was taken last August im just looking through some old pics on my wifes computer, from a very early age with the consent of my local farmer, i steadily day by day introduced my dogs to livestock whilst on lead, as soon as any one of them showed the slightest interest, a sharp tug on the lead with the simple command of NO, and now i can walk freely amongst all livestock with my dogs, different kettle of fish though this time of the year with all the youngsters about, so i keep clear if i can, failing that, i put them on a lead, so as not to cause any stress