I'm extremely new to working dogs and have no experience at all so you can pay no regard to this if you wish, but I don't understand the constant need that alot but not all seem to feel they have to prove them selves to others , become or bee seen as a real 'Dog Man' , or own absolute word beaters or claim to own one , yes I'm sure every one wants to have the pleasure of owning a good dog that is a pleasure to watch work, and yes I suppose that a good dog will owe some of its skills to it's owner in the time and effort given to provid the dog with everything it needs to excel , but in my eyes