Yep agreed mate , I don't meen dead rabbits I mean ones in stop ends tight up that won't budge ,????????? I only really work ferrets which are stayers now not every trip out they end up in stop ends , but with some days and situations that's what happens , now if i was just out for a mooch on mr tod wouldn't be fussed about much like your saying , but ferreting for land owners they want results , and besides unwed the numbers as I dont really shoot and the animals need feeding , and if poss not dry ,