i have the best of both on my land, wide open fields,a disused quarry and thick wood. i do a lot of shooting on this land and still struggling to control the crows as its wicked, there is also lots of game as we manage a shoot. my friend has a peri which i fly. i have talked to the lad with the gyr/saker today and i think i am going to put the deposit down, i am sure this bird will do the job for me. thank you for all your replys i will keep you all posted