i had a 1st cross that took them throo the day , think he was a 1 off he wasnt heavy but had strong head bought him as pup from boy in wales he was out of a 26inch greyhound bitch and the sire was 22inch bull calld joe montana that came from runcorn , dog hit fence post last year and snapd his neck he was 8 best dog i've owned , RIP skip
joe was from south as he was owned by a close friend of the family
sorry mate i'm just going on what the lad told me , i only seen photo of the sire he was red nose dog , is that the same dog ?