this threads bo**ox , if a dogs worth owning , then its worth paying for , .... if a litter of pups are bred out of 2 workers and theres a few left then why shouldnt the new owners pay for them , at least it shows some sort of commitment from the start , if all pups were gifted whats to say the new owners wouldnt just sell them on ?? i understand if a bitch has say for example 15 pups ...... theres just no need to raise that many , but just because all are not spoken for before born doesnt mean they need culling does it , ... ive had dogs gifted and ive paid for dogs from complete strangers ,