Yip I agree with not needing that much bull, 3/8 is all I need in my dogs now and suit the way I hunt but I seen a couple of dogs bred this way a couple of years ago and they were impressive to say the least and you shouldn’t jump to conclusions that the dogs used to produce them lacked anything because they didn’t the lads just wanted to try them and if I’m honest they ended up a hell of a lot racier than most would think. I’ve seen heavier looking 1/2 crosses.