thanks for the very different ideas guys,I havent got access to the roots as of yet.If I meet the man in whos garden it grows I'll see if hes ok with me stoping the stuff growing....johhny G I learnt a gun is way faster cleaner and less strenuous,lol....Paulus,elaborate please,how is it administrated?applied to the severed base?HOLD ON A MINUTE.........thats salt is it not .....scoth that sounds an easy task even from my side of th wall,lol.SS that there mutt is my saving grace,you enter he eats,he wont be going on the skillet for another while yet.