Orchidologists, bonsai afficianados,train-spotters,football fans, lurcherman, carp fishermen, taxidermists, petrol-heads all can bore or flummox those who just don't "get" it WILF, I had a mate who could talk for hours on real ales, my brain would just switch off, I would lose the will to live, everyone is a member of their own sub-cultures, I have a mate who is a sneaker-head, collects limited edition trainers, he is in his late 40's,knows all of the terminology and is up on all of the drops coming up, vive le difference ??