I always had a cast-net or two malt,different materials,various diameters,this ones just got a slightly larger spread than my original model,once upon a time,long,long ago(wake up malt,I am not reading you a bed-time story )I had my induction learning to use them throwing for what I was told were snow-trout high in the himalayas fishing a glacial cold fast-flowing stream,fish are fish the world over,its just the venues that differ The boy enjoyed it,thats all that counts really