I totally agree! Ive owned a number of 22lr's including a cz452 and couldnt fault it especially fitted with a Brooks trigger kit. With a Sak mod and shooting eley or winnie subs the loudest noise you'd here was the impact of the bullet hitting the grass munchers skull. I also briefly owned a cz .17 and thought it way overratted. Much too noisy, after the first shot the rabbits just scattered. Plus as already mentioned they arnt cheap to run prone to wind etc.