All I know is what I saw and what I was told and off one of the old timers of these dogs . Ov the above person he stated that his dogs were crossed up , Russel. But the could be bad blood between people obviously. On his stuff the man who commented, I never saw or heard of white dogs in his line. Then , after a mating, I saw a white dog in a litter. Black and white I mean. He said it's out of the bitch, which wasn't his . He said that the Russell somewhere in there . Anyway years on , I saw the white one crop up, but not in my dogs as I wasn't breeding. He then states that this goes back