Matt 160 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 OTC, would you mind confirming the barrel length and width of the traps stamped as Duffus please? Quote Link to post
Mr Wasp 187 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Very interesting OTC The flatpack side by side with the original photo caught my eye. Matt, what i was saying the other day about the difference in the gap between the springs, that photo really tells the story. The gap on the original is far wider, now i am not saying for definate, but i would take an educated guess that the tension on the spring when fired is much more than on the flat pack one. The trapman one and the Tinsley are more in keeping in this respect. Quote Link to post
Mr Wasp 187 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 For the purposes of flatpack going forward with a rethink, wouldnt it be a good idea to merge this thread with the other one? Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 376 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Barrel length is 6 inches (15cm) exactly, just under 2 1/2 inches (62mm) between the sides, and the measurement over the dome of the barrel - one side to the other is 4 1/2 inches (110mm) Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,736 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) Superb post... OTC.....a wee bit of advice...given in friendship.. I once had a good old pal,...he was an authority on the Working Bedlington Terrier... His name was George Newcombe.. For many years we corresponded, and eventually met up and shared our enthusiasm for this old style terrier type. I was constantly pushing him to put a book together,..alas, he never did,..and many others went on to use his hard won knowledge and vision, in their own manuals....SO,...please don't let there be any regrets... I have no specialised knowledge,.I am just a Moucher...but you have served your time and should finish things... Do try and get a book sorted,...there are many out there, that will offer you assistance,.so please go for it... All the best, Phil. Edited February 28, 2015 by Phil Lloyd 2 Quote Link to post
earth-thrower 490 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 What a collection ! , thanks for this,...(i messaged you on another matter, not sure if you read it ?) (good while ago) Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 376 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 OTC.....a wee bit of advice...given in friendship.. Do try and get a book sorted,...there are many out there, that will offer you assistance,.so please go for it... Patience grasshopper ... 1 Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Matt, what i was saying the other day about the difference in the gap between the springs, that photo really tells the story. The gap on the original is far wider, now i am not saying for definate, but i would take an educated guess that the tension on the spring when fired is much more than on the flat pack one. The trapman one and the Tinsley are more in keeping in this respect. Yes, I think you're right about that Paul. And as you say, that Tinsley looks pretty good The thing is, tightening down those spring retension wires, and thereby spreading the spring over the natural curve of the barrel (and creating more of a gap between the loops) is (I think) a fairly straightforward thing to solve and will require no re-tooling For the purposes of flatpack going forward with a rethink, wouldnt it be a good idea to merge this thread with the other one? Actually, no, I think it's better we keep this thread 'clean' for them to read. I'll send them a link later on today. Barrel length is 6 inches (15cm) exactly, just under 2 1/2 inches (62mm) between the sides, and the measurement over the dome of the barrel - one side to the other is 4 1/2 inches (110mm) Fantastic information, that confirms the dimensions we have for my (post war) trap, and another (pre war) trap we have access to How, and why, the dimensions of the barrel have changed so much over the years is still a mystery.... Superb post... OTC.....a wee bit of advice...given in friendship.. I once had a good old pal,...he was an authority on the Working Bedlington Terrier... His name was George Newcombe.. For many years we corresponded, and eventually met up and shared our enthusiasm for this old style terrier type. I was constantly pushing him to put a book together,..alas, he never did,..and many others went on to use his hard won knowledge and vision, in their own manuals....SO,...please don't let there be any regrets... I have no specialised knowledge,.I am just a Moucher...but you have served your time and should finish things... Do try and get a book sorted,...there are many out there, that will offer you assistance,.so please go for it... All the best, Phil. Got to agree with every bit of that post. It would be a real shame if that book never came out Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 376 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Stop teasing me Phil, and empty your inbox! Quote Link to post
ponte 222 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 My mate went and got out bid on the box, he had a word with the guy who brought and said would you want to sell the mole trap he said take it, so he got genuine duffus for nothing, So, the old ones stamped "duffus" are collectable? Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,736 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 The trap isn't mine,..a young guy from Devon collected a cur pup off my last litter, and brought it to show me. If he lets me keep it,..I'll give it to you free, for your collection... All the best, Phil. 1 Quote Link to post
OldTrapCollector 376 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Here is the Fenn double loop trap - flat, not curved, perhaps it is why it wasn't around for so long? Anyone got one that they could donate to my museum?? 1 Quote Link to post
Nicepix 5,650 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Very interesting - Thanks. When I got the Duffus (No Patent) trap I also was given two or three virtually identical traps, same size, weight and to my eye, design. One is stamped something like W142 or similar. I take it from the original post that Mr. Jolly also made traps for other companies? I'd bet mine are possibly from a business called Farmstar near Doncaster. Quote Link to post
outandabout 27 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Fantastic OTC Quote Link to post
iwm 71 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Old trap collector. Do you know if the Tinsley trap was made at Tinsley wire steel works in Sheffield ?? IWM. Quote Link to post
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