unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I used to have a first cross standard poodle x greyhound and would have another one in a heartbeatHeard a few people say they had poodle/grey and pretty game dogs krawnden? Rare x though Mine was shaping up to be a great allrounder, but unfortunately got killed on the road aged 21 months, so in all fairness I couldn't say he'd been thoroughly tested. But he was fast, agile, had good coat and feet and used his nose well. Was great with ferrets and sensible around the nets, had taken daytime hare, muntjac and roe and had retrieved his first goose from the water (I do a bit of wildfowling). It's also a distinct possibility that he caught the very last legal hare in this country - or at the very least he flecked it. On the afternoon before the hunting ban came into place I took him to a friend's farm that had plenty of hares (I'd spent the morning whippet coursing - wanted to make the very most of that last day!). We walked pretty much the whole farm and had a few runs, but they'd all been at very distant hares and all he'd done was run himself ragged with nothing to show for it. I was desperate for him to get a really good run but the light was beginning to fade and we were running out of time. Then suddenly up jumps puss and the game was on. He rattled it round and round the field we were in, getting plenty of turns in and putting it under a lot of pressure then it made it through the hedge and into a wood. Couldn't see what happened after that, but he was definitely still pressing it hard as we could hear crashing about through the undergrowth and the occasional yip from the dog. Then all went quiet. After about 5 more minutes the dog reappeared still blowing slightly and with a big blob of hare's fur on his jaw. By this time there wasn't much light left. Had a look for the hare but couldn't find it. So he might have lifted it, he might not. But he definitely connected with it in the dying moments of the last day it was legal in England... Shame to hear that. Where did you come across that cross? Would have thought purpose bred/trail or accidental mating but turned out good?There's only one guy think his name was 'Typ Ratcher' that I have known/read about about working this cross. Purely by chance. Mate of mine knew I was looking for a lurcher pup I could use for wildfowling as well. I was actually hoping to find a lab x grey or possibly springer x grey. He rang me up out of the blue one day to say he'd seen a litter of poodle crosses advertised that might do the job just as well as a lab cross. Bred by a woman in Luton. Phoned her up for a chat and it turned out that was the 3rd time she'd done the exact same mating - people had been so pleased with the pups from previous litters. The poodle sire had been used as a gundog and had been worked on water. So I decided to take a punt on it. Most of the litter were really solidly built and had a tight curly coat, but the one I picked was the only lightly built pup in the litter and had a broken coat. When he was killed I rang the breeder to ask if she was going to breed a 4th litter but she wasn't - by then the poodle was 12 and was starting to have epileptic fits and she wouldn't use him again. Working poodles must be rare as hens teeth now bud. It's good to see these different crosses doing well. A mate of mine has been training his Hancock dog as a gun dog. He wasn't keen on them when doing his research but his son went and bought a dog from Hancock anyway. He's been training gun dogs and lurchers for 40 odd years and says this dog is something special and can't fault him! You're right about working poodles being rare (in this country, at least). I know of someone who has one and he told me he knows of one other person with one. Be interesting to see how the Hancock 'gundog' works out. In the right hands there's no reason why it shouldn't work well as they're bright enough... There are quite a few kennels breeding and working standard poodles in the US. U can't imagine the cost of having a couple of straws shipped over would be prohibitive either... Quote Link to post
white van man 3,187 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Be nice to see how the lads dog from Hancock turns out... I like a dog that will pick up game birds, ducks, etc..... Keep us posted...ATB, Phil. I will be seeing him over the summer Phil. Will keep you posted. He knows his stuff and been training dogs for years and isn't one to boast. Will see you in Salisbury soon hopefully. 1 Quote Link to post
white van man 3,187 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 KRAWNDEN he is training him for gun dog and lurcher work. Can't wait to see him work next season. He's in the right hands I have know this guy since I was a kid and he's always there when I need advice. Quote Link to post
krawnden 1,036 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 KRAWNDEN he is training him for gun dog and lurcher work. Can't wait to see him work next season. He's in the right hands I have know this guy since I was a kid and he's always there when I need advice. Sounds good... Quote Link to post
krawnden 1,036 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I used to have a first cross standard poodle x greyhound and would have another one in a heartbeatHeard a few people say they had poodle/grey and pretty game dogs krawnden? Rare x though Mine was shaping up to be a great allrounder, but unfortunately got killed on the road aged 21 months, so in all fairness I couldn't say he'd been thoroughly tested. But he was fast, agile, had good coat and feet and used his nose well. Was great with ferrets and sensible around the nets, had taken daytime hare, muntjac and roe and had retrieved his first goose from the water (I do a bit of wildfowling). It's also a distinct possibility that he caught the very last legal hare in this country - or at the very least he flecked it. On the afternoon before the hunting ban came into place I took him to a friend's farm that had plenty of hares (I'd spent the morning whippet coursing - wanted to make the very most of that last day!). We walked pretty much the whole farm and had a few runs, but they'd all been at very distant hares and all he'd done was run himself ragged with nothing to show for it. I was desperate for him to get a really good run but the light was beginning to fade and we were running out of time. Then suddenly up jumps puss and the game was on. He rattled it round and round the field we were in, getting plenty of turns in and putting it under a lot of pressure then it made it through the hedge and into a wood. Couldn't see what happened after that, but he was definitely still pressing it hard as we could hear crashing about through the undergrowth and the occasional yip from the dog. Then all went quiet. After about 5 more minutes the dog reappeared still blowing slightly and with a big blob of hare's fur on his jaw. By this time there wasn't much light left. Had a look for the hare but couldn't find it. So he might have lifted it, he might not. But he definitely connected with it in the dying moments of the last day it was legal in England... Shame to hear that. Where did you come across that cross? Would have thought purpose bred/trail or accidental mating but turned out good?There's only one guy think his name was 'Typ Ratcher' that I have known/read about about working this cross. Purely by chance. Mate of mine knew I was looking for a lurcher pup I could use for wildfowling as well. I was actually hoping to find a lab x grey or possibly springer x grey. He rang me up out of the blue one day to say he'd seen a litter of poodle crosses advertised that might do the job just as well as a lab cross. Bred by a woman in Luton. Phoned her up for a chat and it turned out that was the 3rd time she'd done the exact same mating - people had been so pleased with the pups from previous litters. The poodle sire had been used as a gundog and had been worked on water. So I decided to take a punt on it. Most of the litter were really solidly built and had a tight curly coat, but the one I picked was the only lightly built pup in the litter and had a broken coat. When he was killed I rang the breeder to ask if she was going to breed a 4th litter but she wasn't - by then the poodle was 12 and was starting to have epileptic fits and she wouldn't use him again. Working poodles must be rare as hens teeth now bud. It's good to see these different crosses doing well. A mate of mine has been training his Hancock dog as a gun dog. He wasn't keen on them when doing his research but his son went and bought a dog from Hancock anyway. He's been training gun dogs and lurchers for 40 odd years and says this dog is something special and can't fault him! You're right about working poodles being rare (in this country, at least). I know of someone who has one and he told me he knows of one other person with one. Be interesting to see how the Hancock 'gundog' works out. In the right hands there's no reason why it shouldn't work well as they're bright enough... There are quite a few kennels breeding and working standard poodles in the US. U can't imagine the cost of having a couple of straws shipped over would be prohibitive either... You're right - I researched it at one time as I was wondering about the feasibility of either importing a pup or getting straws. Either is do-able but you'd need much deeper pockets than I've got. I corresponded with the owners of http://www.redhuntingpoodles.com/ about it. Love the look of some of their mutts. Quote Link to post
dogmad riley 1,337 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Them basengi dogs of africa look pritty handy in there own right for mooching, but im sure I once watched a program on dogs that showed africans with tame wild dogs called sentinal but did a quick search and didnt find what I was looking for hence the mention of the besengi but it was a real handy looking hunting companion and it wasnt a wild dog that looked like a hyena like the ones at yorkshire animal park.Basenji wouldn't be great for mooching I don't imagine - they can't bark ! And if you mean those African Painted Dogs then that's quite interesting actually - they reckon they separated from Canis Lupus after the fox so POTENTIALLY could be bred to a domestic dog but they're not 100% as no one has ever tried if I remember rightly I once watched a documentary and it said that they tried to tame them but they couldn't be tamed they remained snappy and aggressive towards humans and wouldn't even come near them. Quote Link to post
bracken boy 584 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Myself i like colliex grey or whipp x grey because that suits me for what i do. other people hunt different prey and need different crosses, as for labxgreys well if its light enough and catches then wheres the harm but they not for me. Quote Link to post
2.8 guy 403 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Them basengi dogs of africa look pritty handy in there own right for mooching, but im sure I once watched a program on dogs that showed africans with tame wild dogs called sentinal but did a quick search and didnt find what I was looking for hence the mention of the besengi but it was a real handy looking hunting companion and it wasnt a wild dog that looked like a hyena like the ones at yorkshire animal park. Basenji wouldn't be great for mooching I don't imagine - they can't bark ! And if you mean those African Painted Dogs then that's quite interesting actually - they reckon they separated from Canis Lupus after the fox so POTENTIALLY could be bred to a domestic dog but they're not 100% as no one has ever tried if I remember rightly No I wasnt on about the painted dog, I watched a program on the sentanal tribe of africa and on there it showed them hunting with there dogs they looked very much like the basengi but called them sentanal hounds excuse the spelling the program was very interesting I found this link but wish I could watch the exact program again was good https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huntercourse.com%2Fblog%2F2011%2F05%2Famazing-hunter-gatherer-societies-still-in-existence%2F&ei=XBvvVMHlH8TlUvrsgbAB&usg=AFQjCNEOb9yZL-nw4oVxxjv75tX2MK1GFw https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fwnet%2Fnature%2Fdogs-that-changed-the-world-interactive-map-discover-ancient-breeds%2F1282%2F&ei=xB7vVLmSBIbOaKbEgLAM&usg=AFQjCNH27YrAZ0aJFobRbXcZpnT2sP7Icw 1 Quote Link to post
Chid 6,376 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Ridgeback x greyhound whippet/greyhound x springer 3 Quote Link to post
northern lad 2,292 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Them basengi dogs of africa look pritty handy in there own right for mooching, but im sure I once watched a program on dogs that showed africans with tame wild dogs called sentinal but did a quick search and didnt find what I was looking for hence the mention of the besengi but it was a real handy looking hunting companion and it wasnt a wild dog that looked like a hyena like the ones at yorkshire animal park. Basenji wouldn't be great for mooching I don't imagine - they can't bark ! And if you mean those African Painted Dogs then that's quite interesting actually - they reckon they separated from Canis Lupus after the fox so POTENTIALLY could be bred to a domestic dog but they're not 100% as no one has ever tried if I remember rightly No I wasnt on about the painted dog, I watched a program on the sentanal tribe of africa and on there it showed them hunting with there dogs they looked very much like the basengi but called them sentanal hounds excuse the spelling the program was very interesting I found this link but wish I could watch the exact program again was good https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huntercourse.com%2Fblog%2F2011%2F05%2Famazing-hunter-gatherer-societies-still-in-existence%2F&ei=XBvvVMHlH8TlUvrsgbAB&usg=AFQjCNEOb9yZL-nw4oVxxjv75tX2MK1GFw https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fwnet%2Fnature%2Fdogs-that-changed-the-world-interactive-map-discover-ancient-breeds%2F1282%2F&ei=xB7vVLmSBIbOaKbEgLAM&usg=AFQjCNH27YrAZ0aJFobRbXcZpnT2sP7Icw Knew a couple who had Basenjis years ago,was a running joke in the house,if the dogs were sat or lay on it (chairs etc even the bed)it was theirs very aggressive animals.The couple who owned them were not inexperienced owners who had let the dogs run amok,he was an experienced basset hound exhibitor and judge ,and she was in bulldogs,wouldnt own one for love nor money Quote Link to post
Dead Eyes 680 Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Them basengi dogs of africa look pritty handy in there own right for mooching, but im sure I once watched a program on dogs that showed africans with tame wild dogs called sentinal but did a quick search and didnt find what I was looking for hence the mention of the besengi but it was a real handy looking hunting companion and it wasnt a wild dog that looked like a hyena like the ones at yorkshire animal park. Basenji wouldn't be great for mooching I don't imagine - they can't bark ! And if you mean those African Painted Dogs then that's quite interesting actually - they reckon they separated from Canis Lupus after the fox so POTENTIALLY could be bred to a domestic dog but they're not 100% as no one has ever tried if I remember rightly No I wasnt on about the painted dog, I watched a program on the sentanal tribe of africa and on there it showed them hunting with there dogs they looked very much like the basengi but called them sentanal hounds excuse the spelling the program was very interesting I found this link but wish I could watch the exact program again was good https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.huntercourse.com%2Fblog%2F2011%2F05%2Famazing-hunter-gatherer-societies-still-in-existence%2F&ei=XBvvVMHlH8TlUvrsgbAB&usg=AFQjCNEOb9yZL-nw4oVxxjv75tX2MK1GFw https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fwnet%2Fnature%2Fdogs-that-changed-the-world-interactive-map-discover-ancient-breeds%2F1282%2F&ei=xB7vVLmSBIbOaKbEgLAM&usg=AFQjCNH27YrAZ0aJFobRbXcZpnT2sP7Icw Seems interesting - ta for that 1 Quote Link to post
mad4it 693 Posted March 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2015 saw a dodmanx whippet today that the owner said murder on rats, i was think fast set of teeth Quote Link to post
LOL 212 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 One of the lads up here had a airdale x greyhound good rabbit and fox dog Quote Link to post
LOL 212 Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 to joe777 Thi was about 15 years ago I will ask him if he as any photoswhen i see him 1 Quote Link to post
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