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#31 paulus

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 03:34 pm

 

 

Hypocrisy is endemic in the church & all religions...........I have no interest in the church, therefore have no interest in what go's on there.........gay marriage included

how many have their children christened as a standard thing rather than for what its actually intended for. personally i never had either of my lads christened as i am not religious, preferring to let them make their own minds up when they understand what it means, now to me i am respecting religion by doing this even though i dont follow it in any shape or form, where as allowing gay marriage in a church against what the bible teaches to me is disrespecting the religion.

That's how I was brought up, religion was neither encouraged or disrespected & I suppose I'll do the same with my son, I get what you're saying, but if it now has the blessing of the church, is it disrespectful?
I personally see the hypocrisy in all church weddings of non religious couples (gay or straight), thats why I refused to marry in a church, although I probably wouldn't refuse an invite, so does that make me a hypocrite? lol
Are you against gay marriage full stop? that I get, although it doesn't trouble me.......but if the church are choosing to move with the times, I just don't see it as disrespectful.

 

the issue of gay marriages in church was pushed as a way of showing  acceptance of homosexuality, personally i can never see gay as being normal and i have as much right to think that as they do to think it is, the media seems hell bent on putting as many gays in the faces of the general public at every opportunity. maybe i am of the age group where things were different, when i was younger it was illegal to be gay in the forces, but today its all over prime time tv !!



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 03:40 pm

[quote name="Born Hunter" post="3713826" timestamp="1407771136"][quote name="Accip74" post="3713822" timestamp="1407770879"][quote name="Born Hunter" post="3713812" timestamp="1407769489"]The rituals of the Christian faith are as much a part of British social heritage/tradition/culture as anything else. If we threw away every part of our culture that wasn't true to it's roots we would be throwing out a lot more than marriage.
 
I see nothing wrong with atheists having a church wedding as it's so ingrained in British culture. To some it may be all about god but to most it's about tradition.[

As gay marriage will become part of tradition as well. Case closed. Well done born![/quote] You say that like I give a f**k, lol. Religion is dieing out and yet it's shaped much of British culture, and well I quite like British culture so I'll keep practicing the traditions we have whether they have their roots in religion or not.[/quote]

Good for you mate!! It was a bit of humour born......come on don't be so serious lol........I couldn't care less either way, I have my own opinions on marriage in church, but I really couldn't care less what others do.....live & let live..that's me..;-)
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 03:42 pm

Hypocrisy is endemic in the church & all religions...........I have no interest in the church, therefore have no interest in what go's on there.........gay marriage included

how many have their children christened as a standard thing rather than for what its actually intended for. personally i never had either of my lads christened as i am not religious, preferring to let them make their own minds up when they understand what it means, now to me i am respecting religion by doing this even though i dont follow it in any shape or form, where as allowing gay marriage in a church against what the bible teaches to me is disrespecting the religion.

That's how I was brought up, religion was neither encouraged or disrespected & I suppose I'll do the same with my son, I get what you're saying, but if it now has the blessing of the church, is it disrespectful?
I personally see the hypocrisy in all church weddings of non religious couples (gay or straight), thats why I refused to marry in a church, although I probably wouldn't refuse an invite, so does that make me a hypocrite? lol
Are you against gay marriage full stop? that I get, although it doesn't trouble me.......but if the church are choosing to move with the times, I just don't see it as disrespectful.
the issue of gay marriages in church was pushed as a way of showing  acceptance of homosexuality, personally i can never see gay as being normal and i have as much right to think that as they do to think it is, the media seems hell bent on putting as many gays in the faces of the general public at every opportunity. maybe i am of the age group where things were different, when i was younger it was illegal to be gay in the forces, but today its all over prime time tv !!

I respect that view, it's not my own, but I can see where you're coming from.....

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:30 pm

why is the bible so hard to beleive,do people not beleive eye witness accounts or are people just willfully ignorant.the bible has stood the test of time,no one has disproved it in any shape or form,an there have been hundreds( still are) trying to disprove to no avail,most people are just hypocrites slabering away about bible but there jyst going from what theyve heard from someone else f***ing idiots letting people make there mind up for them.think about this YOUR DEAD LONGER THAN YOU LIVE colombus is dead few hundred years.think about that

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:35 pm

why is the bible so hard to beleive,do people not beleive eye witness accounts or are people just willfully ignorant.the bible has stood the test of time,no one has disproved it in any shape or form,an there have been hundreds( still are) trying to disprove to no avail,most people are just hypocrites slabering away about bible but there jyst going from what theyve heard from someone else f***ing idiots letting people make there mind up for them.think about this YOUR DEAD LONGER THAN YOU LIVE colombus is dead few hundred years.think about that

when they can not even agree what it says themselves so what chance has anyone else got  :laugh: theres probably thousands of religions which one do you choose,  millions have been slaughtered and are still be slaughtered over a book that they can not agree on  :icon_eek:



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:44 pm

who cant agree on it paulas,eg please mate

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:49 pm

you blaming the spoon for fat people paulas

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:51 pm

you blaming the spoon for fat people paulas

no just religion for being the cause of more conflict and death than any thing else in this world 



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 04:58 pm

the bible is not a religion paulas its the inerint word of god written by adam,abraham,moses etc threw the holy spirit.bible speciffically states(thou shall not kill) just because a MAN not god said their killing in the name of bible doesnt mean its true
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:00 pm

No gay couple either man or woman should be allowed to get married in a church or any other institution that hold buggering or scissor kissing the same sex as abhorent nor should the dirty buggers be allowed to adopt or be in a position of influence over any child under 16
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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:19 pm

[quote name="Accip74" post="3713822" timestamp="1407770879"][quote name="Born Hunter" post="3713812" timestamp="1407769489"]The rituals of the Christian faith are as much a part of British social heritage/tradition/culture as anything else. If we threw away every part of our culture that wasn't true to it's roots we would be throwing out a lot more than marriage.
 
I see nothing wrong with atheists having a church wedding as it's so ingrained in British culture. To some it may be all about god but to most it's about tradition.[

As gay marriage will become part of tradition as well. Case closed. Well done born![/quote] You say that like I give a f**k, lol. Religion is dieing out and yet it's shaped much of British culture, and well I quite like British culture so I'll keep practicing the traditions we have whether they have their roots in religion or not.


Good for you mate!! It was a bit of humour born......come on don't be so serious lol........I couldn't care less either way, I have my own opinions on marriage in church, but I really couldn't care less what others do.....live & let live..that's me..;-)

 

Pretty much my sentiments. :laugh:  :thumbs:


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:24 pm

do you no the ten commadments paulas or are you willfully ignorant mate,thou shall not kill,is one when I get back from work I put up more scripture that tells you not to kill especially in gods name.just men trying to justify there murderous ways paulas mate atb

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:53 pm

this has gone quiet if any non beleiver wants a adult friendly debate,im hear with truth

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Posted 11 August 2014 - 05:57 pm

but the ten commandments were written by a man not a god as indeed was the bible 40 authors contributed to the it. please show me anything god did and not a man in the name of god the same as the killing you meantion



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Posted 11 August 2014 - 06:08 pm

Il start off then,first line in genisis(first book of bible)in the beginning(time) god created the heavens(space) an the earth(matter) now thats the first line,god is telling us he spoke time space an matter into existence similtaneously. were would you put matter if you had no space,when would you put it etc. the three have to come into existence at same,so could someone explain to me how they evolved(religon)atb




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