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#31 slipper

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:59 am

Does anybody know what twist rate my cz 527 223 is?

#32 charlie caller

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:33 am

you could put on your fac FOR HUMANELY DESPATCHING WILD MAMMALS ,this will give you the upper hand as people may call you or dispatching mammals in destress ,also for PURPOSE OF CARRYING OUT ATIVITIVES OF  ESTATE MANAGEMENT this also lets you kill stock so .243 cal rifle is more suitable

on my fac it states for purpose to shoot foxes and deer (ive a 243 granted) so I would put it down to your local police force forcing your hand on a lower calibre    

Yes but if they wont pass the ground for .243 he can put down whatever he likes, he still wont get a .243, and if he is only shooting foxes, and has no intention to shoot larger deer, then a .22 centerfire is the perfect tool, putting down .243 because you fancy one is not good reason, you have to justify the need for the calibre, if the ground was already passed for .243 then you might stand a chance, but if you need to get it passed, and no deer are present, you are looking at a .22 cf, what about a .17rem .223 necked down to .17, 4000+fps and deadly out to 300 yards?


Edited by charlie caller, 11 December 2013 - 11:38 am.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 12:20 pm

Does anybody know what twist rate my cz 527 223 is?

 

Varmint Model 1:9 according to Google unless it falls between certain years in which case 1:12.

 

Others 1:12.:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_527

 

There's also info here:

 

http://www.cz-usa.co...nterfire-micro/


Edited by Alsone, 11 December 2013 - 12:22 pm.


#34 gibbo1973

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 01:51 pm

well if the land is not passible id opt for the 22250 the keeper I lamp with doesnt miss and makes agreat impact and clean kill on the reds

but ive never seen out else used so 223 could be your choice ,

all rifles will do the biz but personal preference ,ammo costs etc etc have to be choosen  and everyones different

happy hunting anyway

ps a good scope is required also its not just about the rifle   



#35 charlie caller

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 02:19 pm

I presume you mean red foxes? As a .22-250 is not legal on red deer.



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:07 pm

yes foxes sorry for the confusion



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:32 pm

I presume you mean red foxes? As a .22-250 is not legal on red deer.

 

Except in Scotland...



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Posted 11 December 2013 - 04:45 pm

I presume you mean red foxes? As a .22-250 is not legal on red deer.

 
Except in Scotland...


A 22-250 is not Red deer legal in Scotland!
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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:15 pm

 

I presume you mean red foxes? As a .22-250 is not legal on red deer.

 

Except in Scotland...

 

Err no Alsone check your facts mate, its legal on roe cwd and muntjac the roe only in Scotland.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:45 pm

I didn't read it properly and think we were talking reds, sorry.


Edited by Alsone, 12 December 2013 - 08:42 pm.


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Posted 12 December 2013 - 02:31 pm

I had the same dilemma. I went for 243 and I love it. 100grn soft point is what I feed it and it does the job!

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Posted 12 December 2013 - 05:28 pm

 

I was sent a letter with my FAC just sating that I had been refused said calibres due to lack of experience, but to re-apply for them in 6/9 months...Which would be classed as a free variation...

 

 

.. and 6 months with a .22 rimfire counts towards a slot for a centerfire with expanding ammunition :blink:



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 06:12 pm

 

 

I was sent a letter with my FAC just sating that I had been refused said calibres due to lack of experience, but to re-apply for them in 6/9 months...Which would be classed as a free variation...

 

 

.. and 6 months with a .22 rimfire counts towards a slot for a centerfire with expanding ammunition :blink:

 

Yes.



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Posted 12 December 2013 - 07:01 pm

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Edited by Yokel Matt, 12 December 2013 - 08:01 pm.


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Posted 12 December 2013 - 07:04 pm

Sounds like an FEO fob off to me - The question was more directed at the people who do have experience with shooting centre fire at night on whether they thought this was a good idea or not.

I wouldn't be surprised if your variation got knocked back or was granted subject to mentorship or FMJ only for range shooting but good luck with it anyway.

Edited by Yokel Matt, 12 December 2013 - 07:05 pm.



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